Subject: [afb] Re: Rules and regs
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 18:32:49 +0100
I noticed a mail from ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk containing the words Rules=
and regs. I'm now going ask him what this is about...
> Go ahead, we'll open it up for discussion.
Okay, here it is. I usually put 'ADMIN README! - Rules posting
(15 Jun 1999)' in the Subject: line, so that it jumps out amongst
other mails.
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Message 15430
From: "David Patterson"
Subject: [afb] Re: HHGTTG (Was BT-Internet, Fair competition?)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 21:07:53 +0100
Hi,
>> Actually, I think the files are still protected by copyright so it's
>> probably not a good idea to spread them. Having said that,
>> if it turns out to be legal, I'd really appreciate a copy too.
>
>AFAICR, Activision own the rights to all the infocom games. I guess you
>could speak nicely to them. You _can_ get Zork I,II & III from their
>website for free, though.
Sorry folks, I guess that's that then. Still, I'm going to keep looking for
the Amiga version, my second hand PC copy lost it's manual many years ago -
and it looks increasingly unlikely I'll be getting that copy off the 5 inch
anytime soon either :-/
Dave
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Message 15431
From: Danny Shepherd
Subject: [afb] Re: Cable&Wireless
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:53:36 +0000
Hello All,
On 15-Jun-99, Stephen Harris wrote:
> It is possible to use C&W without having a new phone line put in :-)) All
> I have to do is dial 132 before any call I make, and it gets routed
> through their service at thier prices. :-)
Does that mean that Euphony is a C&W service? I have to dial 132 to have my
calls routed to Euphony :)
--
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WEB: http://start.at/shepherd
What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone?
-- Bertolt Brecht
Message 15432
From: Ken Walsh
Subject: [afb] Re: Freeserve dying AGAIN?
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 20:24:38 +0100
Hello Tom
> On 14-Jun-99 17:47:56, Ferenczy said:
>
>
> 8000 calls an hour at 50p a minute that makes for a nice tidy sum. No
> where's my 'How to start up a flakey free ISP with hight cost technical
> support' book? ;)
goody as i'm thinking of buying some shares in them when they come up for
sale ;-)
Cheers all the best
Ken Walsh
Sent by the Amiga Computer System The Amiga A1200
Message 15433
From: Andy Kinsella
Subject: [afb] Re: C compilers
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 20:20:36 +0100
Greetings Matt
On 15-Jun-99, you wrote:
> C is case sensitive. So are most C programmers (that is, sensitive about
> people's use of case when talking about C). You don't want to pop onto
> comp.c.programming and have them flame you off, do you?
There's no need for him to go to comp.c.programming when you're to provide
just that sort of service.
> Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk
>
Regards
Andy
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Message 15434
From: Andy Kinsella
Subject: [afb] Re: APDF
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:59:03 +0100
Greetings Richard
On 15-Jun-99, you wrote:
> Hello j.hart@ukonline.co.uk
>
> On 15-Jun-99, you wrote:
>
>> I cannot get Apdf to work- I get the error "cannot create port list"
>> when I try to load a PDF document. I have Gzip installed correctly. I
>> am using the PPC version (does it work under WarpOS with emulation?).
>
> It doen't want to work under emulation - I get the same error here.
>
> BTW, anybody who hasn't tried APDF should trot along over to their
> nearest Aminet mirror and download a copy now. It's fab - especially
> when used with a TTF engine and some type1 fonts.
I cannot get the FPU version to work. It's supposed to be 030+fpu/040 and
060, but it will not work. The 020 version works fine (I have a 030+882)
It seems to work very well; and doesn't seem to need a jumbo-stack like
xpdf.
re:Gzip, is there any special places all the bits should go? I just
coppied the contents of the "bin/" dire to c:. is that OK? :} I couldn't
find any installation details in the Docs..
> Cheers,
> Richard
>
Regards
Andy
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Message 15435
From: Gerald Mellor
Subject: [afb] Xpdf
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 22:30:33 +0100
Hi, I'm trying to install Xpdf 0.8 on my Amiga, but according to the docs it
requires the X11R6.3 installation which is distributed with Geek Gadgets.
Since I don't have any GG CDs I had a look for it on Aminet, but no luck
there (at least not doing a search for x11, I may be looking for the wrong
thing..) Can anyone help me out here? Thanks,
Bauglir
Message 15436
From: rsdm@eee.rgu.ac.uk
Subject: [afb] Re: Transmeta
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 21:40:30 -0000
Hi Matt,
> > I have been on loads of CPU sites and all they say is that
> > Transmeta is a software programmable Chip (NOTE: NOT
> > CPU, CHIP!) that can be programmed on the fly so as to
> > change it's instruction set to the task it is doing at the time.
>
> Speculation.
Sounds like that FPGA based computer that was mentioned in (please don't kill me) PC Plus. Runs pretty fast because the software is basically a re-configuration for the FPGAs so it all runs in hardware. Doubt it would be vialble for the supposed price of the NG Amigas though.
> Because it can allegedly emulate an x86 class processor faster
> than a real x86 class processor could run at the same clock speed.
> A trivial task - x86 architecture is far from highly optimised..
But surely it would also take a lot of time to emulate the imperfections? ;)
Message 15437
From: Andrew Crowe
Subject: [afb] Re: AI
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 22:40:49 +0000
Hi Everybody,
> I remember once seeing a PC strategy game (can't remember which) which
> was proudly claiming that it's units used neural nets which has got to
> be about the worst way of handling this kind of application I can
> think of. Assuming true untrained neural net, units start very very
> very stupid doing random things (like shooting themselves), get
> smarter, train up on your personal tactics, you get one to two good
> contests then it wipes the floor with you everytime because it can
> predict what your going to do, until you change tactics and you start
> back at square one. I assume they didn't really use actual NNs.
Ha, I don't believe a word of it:
Currently the most advanced nural net running on some super computer has the
intelligence of a kitten. Can you imaging a cat trying to play Napam?
It probably uses some kind of simple learning system, but not a real
nural net, NN systems just aren't advanced enough.
See ya.
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Message 15438
From: Andrew Crowe
Subject: [afb] Re: how to be rich
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 22:44:27 +0000
Hi Everybody,
>> Nope, it's SPAM pure and simple - I have forwarded the file back to
>> the originator with a terse note... I suggest anyone else who want
>> to stop this sort of thing do the same - if they can send 600+
>
> No, replying to Spam, even to send 600+ copies, is the last thing you
> should do. Doing so only gives them your address in addition to the
> list address. Ignore it, like everybody else does, or track it and try
> to remove them. But *don't* reply to them, otherwise don't be surprised
> if you get more Spam in return...
why not use an anon. remailer? Or your superfast
school/college/university's hundred-million-megs per second connection ;)
See ya.
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Message 15439
From: rsdm@eee.rgu.ac.uk
Subject: [afb] Re: A Blitz Problem
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 21:50:02 -0000
Hi Danny,
> I cannot work out how to read the system variable RC. What i'm trying to do
> is see if Genesis is connected by
> But how do I get at RC?
Isn't RC a standard system variable? If it is, then you could try this (bad) way of getting it.
Execute_ "getenv RC > ram:temp"
If ReadFIle(0,"ram:temp")
FileInput 0
; read the number here, probably with Inkey$(1)
CloseFile 0
End If
And shouldn't you be asking this on the Blitz list? ;)
Message 15440
From: Gerald Mellor
Subject: [afb] Re: APDF
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 22:59:02 +0100
I've seen a few people having problems running APDF on their PPCs, but has
anyone had trouble running the 68k version? When I start it from either
Workbench or the CLI all I get is a Line 1111 Emulator Error. I have gzip,
MUI, and everything else the docs say it requires. Am I missing something,
or is it just very unstable atm?
Bauglir
Message 15441
From: Vincenzo Morra
Subject: [afb] Re: PPaint 7.1b (was Thanks for the info)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:10:52 +0100
Hello Ben
On 15-Giu-99, Ben Vost wrote:
> Hi Matt,
>
>> Eh? 7.1b? Where's that?
>
> On Cloanto's site as of today.
YEEESSSSSS!!!!
BTW, I bought it after I tried the Cover Disc. You see, is not a bad idea to
put on the cover disc complete
version of old piece of software. I know that Ben would not agree with it,
but that is just my opinion.
And no, I am not starting a new thread ;)
Ciao
--
Vincenzo Morra
vmorra@morres.demon.co.uk
ICQ: 18467837
Message 15442
From: Vincenzo Morra
Subject: [afb] Re: PPaint 7.1b (was Thanks for the info)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:11:51 +0100
Hello Matt
On 15-Giu-99, Matt Sealey wrote:
>> Hi Matt,
>>
>>> Eh? 7.1b? Where's that?
>>
>> On Cloanto's site as of today.
>
> Phew, I was worried for a moment.
>
> I pride myself on being EXTREMELY up to date
> with my apps and system libraries. The thought
> of missing an upgrade by even a few days made
> me break into a cold sweat..
>
> [shudder]
>
> I'm better now :)
Would you like a cup of tea?? (English accent)
Ciao
--
Vincenzo Morra
vmorra@morres.demon.co.uk
ICQ: 18467837
Message 15443
From: Vincenzo Morra
Subject: [afb] Re: PPaint 7.1b (was Thanks for the info)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:12:31 +0100
Hello Matt
On 15-Giu-99, Matt Sealey wrote:
>>> Hi Matt,
>>>
>>>> Eh? 7.1b? Where's that?
>>>
>>> On Cloanto's site as of today.
>>
>> Phew, I was worried for a moment.
>
> And I am again - where is it?
Oh, gosh. You really could do with a nice cup of tea. (English, posh
accent).
Ciao
--
Vincenzo Morra
vmorra@morres.demon.co.uk
ICQ: 18467837
Message 15444
From: Michael O'Hara
Subject: [afb] Re: BT-Internet, Fair competition?
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 17:34:17 +0100
Hi Philip,
On 12-Jun-99, you wrote
>> (I'm sure you made the long one up).
> ROTFLMAO :)
ROTFLMAOOL :)
Cheers,
Michael.
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Message 15445
From: Michael O'Hara
Subject: [afb] Re: Freeserve dying AGAIN?
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 13:23:59 +0100
Hi Ben,
On 14-Jun-99, you wrote
> Hi all (except those on FreeServe who probably won't get this),
> So is Freeserve's mail server down again, since loads of freeserve
> addresses on this list seem to be bouncing all of a sudden?
Don't think so? I'm still getting maili from the lists I've not yet
changed over to UKOnline... I know I'm lazy but I can't be bothered
to change from freeserve to UKOnline when in the next 3 or 4 weeks
I'll have to change all my lists to wirenet for a year.... :)
Cheers,
Michael.
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Message 15446
From: Jon Barker
Subject: [afb] Re: HHGTTG (Was BT-Internet, Fair competition?)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:51:11 +0100
Hello David
On 15-Jun-99, David Patterson wrote:
> Sorry folks, I guess that's that then. Still, I'm going to keep looking
> for the Amiga version, my second hand PC copy lost it's manual many years
> ago - and it looks increasingly unlikely I'll be getting that copy off the
> 5 inch anytime soon either :-/
I've got the Mastertronic version of HGTTG here, it's only a couple of
files, do you want it? I know it's illegal, but I think Mastertronic and
Infocom (Activision) have left the Amiga scene to rot long ago
Cheers
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Message 15447
From: "Carl Berry"
Subject: [afb] Re: AI
Date: 15 Jun 99 23:50:16 +0000
Hello,
>
> Currently the most advanced nural net running on some super computer has the
> intelligence of a kitten. Can you imaging a cat trying to play Napam?
The way I play strat games it would probably beat me though ;)
>
> It probably uses some kind of simple learning system, but not a real
> nural net, NN systems just aren't advanced enough.
>
Well I don't see the point in using a learning process at all in this
sort of game, neural nets and their like are generally used were the
environment is not completely defined or understood, why not use a
rule based system ? Ok you can try and be clever and get the game to
respond to the level of the player but I've never seen this work
effectively (anybody ever see any difference in the way Gods used to
play ? that was supposed to have a learning algorithm) besides like I
said originally as soon as the player changes tactics (or a different
user appears) it all goes down the drain anyway.
Carl
Accy, Lancs.
Message 15448
From: Gerald Mellor
Subject: [afb] Re: APDF
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 00:05:21 +0100
Hi Gerald,
> I've seen a few people having problems running APDF on their PPCs, but has
> anyone had trouble running the 68k version? When I start it from either
> Workbench or the CLI all I get is a Line 1111 Emulator Error. I have gzip,
> MUI, and everything else the docs say it requires. Am I missing something,
> or is it just very unstable atm?
Well the non-fpu version works ok. Looks like the FPU version doesn't like
your Blizzard 1230 IV very much :-/
Bauglir
Message 15449
From: "Carl Berry"
Subject: [afb] Mission : Impossible ? (To be undertaken by B. Vost & Associates)
Date: 16 Jun 99 00:09:17 +0000
Good Evening,
It has come to our attention that a magazine in the Future empire by
the name of T3 is next month planning to release an issue devoted to
the future of computing. This tome has in the past displayed
disturbing leanings to the PC side although we have detected a
definite Apple fringe lurking within (rumours of ex-editors being
replaced for such sympathys can not be discounted nor confirmed at
this time). Your mission and that of your AF team should you choose
to accept it is to get the word AMIGA to appear somewhere (anywhere
?) in this issue. There have been some small successes with this
group notably a news article on a new Amiga and a review by someone
going under the name of Nick Veitch (who ever he was).
Possible contacts from current known agents operating within T3 :
Rob Mead (ex-AF/ AS)
Richard Longhurst (ex-AP)
Tim Norris (ex-AP)
Cam Winstanley (ex-AP)
Occasional sightings of Steve Jarratt (ex-AF ed) have been reported by
agents but with his Apple connections should only be approached with
extreme caution. The head of this organisation, one Paul Pettengale,
has been known to run PC squads in his younger days.
If you should be caught the AFB list will deny all knowledge of this
operation.
This message will be deleted ......eventually.
Message 15450
From: "Andrew Mills"
Subject: [afb] Re: HHGTTG (Was BT-Internet, Fair competition?)
Date: 15 Jun 99 23:55:09 +0000
Hello David Patterson, on 15-Jun-99 20:07:53 you said about:
[afb] Re: HHGTTG (Was BT-Internet, Fair competition?)
[snip]
>Sorry folks, I guess that's that then. Still, I'm going to keep looking for
>the Amiga version, my second hand PC copy lost it's manual many years ago -
>and it looks increasingly unlikely I'll be getting that copy off the 5 inch
>anytime soon either :-/
The Amiga version of HHGTTG? Hmmm, I think that I /may/ have a copy of
it. I'm not sure though and can't check as it may still be with a load
of other games at my old house.
--
Andy Mills,
South West Amiga Group
http://www.wharne.u-net.com/swag/
--
The air in here is pretty thick, I think I'll go outside.
Message 15451
From: "Neil Bothwick"
Subject: [afb] Re: how to be rich
Date: 16 Jun 1999 0:33:46 +0100
Andrew Crowe said,
>>> Nope, it's SPAM pure and simple - I have forwarded the file back to
>>> the originator with a terse note... I suggest anyone else who want
>>> to stop this sort of thing do the same - if they can send 600+
>>
>> No, replying to Spam, even to send 600+ copies, is the last thing you
>> should do. Doing so only gives them your address in addition to the
>> list address. Ignore it, like everybody else does, or track it and try
>> to remove them. But *don't* reply to them, otherwise don't be surprised
>> if you get more Spam in return...
> why not use an anon. remailer? Or your superfast
> school/college/university's hundred-million-megs per second connection ;)
Because the originator's address may be forged, you may end up
mailbombing a totally innocent person, and lose your own Internet
access as a result.
Neil
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Message 15452
From: "Neil Bothwick"
Subject: [afb] Re: Xpdf
Date: 16 Jun 1999 0:36:7 +0100
Gerald Mellor said,
> Hi, I'm trying to install Xpdf 0.8 on my Amiga, but according to the docs it
> requires the X11R6.3 installation which is distributed with Geek Gadgets.
> Since I don't have any GG CDs I had a look for it on Aminet, but no luck
> there (at least not doing a search for x11, I may be looking for the wrong
> thing..) Can anyone help me out here? Thanks,
GG is at ftp://ftp.ninemoons.com
There's a *lot* to download.
Neil
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Message 15453
From: Gerald Mellor
Subject: [afb] Re: Mission : Impossible ? (To be undertaken by B. Vost & Associates)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 00:50:54 +0100
Hi Carl,
> It has come to our attention that a magazine in the Future empire by
> the name of T3 is next month planning to release an issue devoted to
> the future of computing.
> Your mission and that of your AF team should you choose
> to accept it is to get the word AMIGA to appear somewhere (anywhere
> ?) in this issue.
If it's due to be released next month won't the magazine have been written
already? Or at least most of it will have been, let's just hope someone has
already had this idea :)
Some PC magazine (can't remember which) had a feature on "Alternative
Operating Systems" last month. Although I think the only ones mentioned
were Windows versions, Linux versions, MacOS and Risc OS, no mention of
AmigaOS, which I thought was a shame :-/
Bauglir
Message 15454
From: Gerald Mellor
Subject: [afb] Re: Xpdf
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 00:52:44 +0100
Hi Neil,
> GG is at ftp://ftp.ninemoons.com
>
> There's a *lot* to download.
Do I need it *all* just to run Xpdf 0.8? Version 0.7 works well enough
without LibX11.
Bauglir
Message 15455
From: "Neil Bothwick"
Subject: [afb] Re: Xpdf
Date: 16 Jun 1999 0:59:49 +0100
Gerald Mellor said,
> Hi Neil,
>> GG is at ftp://ftp.ninemoons.com
>>
>> There's a *lot* to download.
> Do I need it *all* just to run Xpdf 0.8? Version 0.7 works well enough
> without LibX11.
You need quite a lot of it AFAIK. 0.7 doesn't need GG, using LibX11
instead. I'd persevere with Apdf instead.
Neil
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Message 15456
From: 4-0 <4-0@beamer.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: Lightwave 3D
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 19:56:21 +0000
Hello david.baker@ukonline.co.uk
On 13-Jun-99, you wrote:
> I own Lightwave 3D v3.5 and was wondering how I could either
> upgrade to version 5 or purchase the complete package of version 5.
> I've heard that Lightwave is no longer being produced for the Amiga
> so I guess I may be stuck with v3.5, not that there's anything wrong
> with it, but v5 should in theory be better than v3.5
How much is Lightwave v5 anyway?
Cheers
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Message 15457
From: 4-0 <4-0@beamer.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] Fonts (again)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:36:27 +0000
Hiya ppl
I'm tring to use Postscript fonts in the spline editor of Imagine v4, but no
fonts come up on the font list. I think it's because I dont know how to
install Postscript fonts. I've tried the intellifont proggy, but that dont
work. Can anyone help?
Cheers
4-0
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Message 15458
From: 4-0 <4-0@beamer.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] Amiga font
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:36:38 +0000
Hiya ppl
Does anyone know the name ofthe font used for the "AMiGA" text logo? Also,
where can I get it from.
Cheers
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Message 15459
From: "Ben Vost"
Subject: [afb] Re: Lightwave 3D
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:50:03 +0100
Hi 4-0,
> How much is Lightwave v5 anyway?
As someone else has already pointed out it's =A3995 +VAT.
All the best,
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Message 15460
From: "Ben Vost"
Subject: [afb] Re: Freeserve dying AGAIN?
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:51:08 +0100
Hi James,
> Wouldn't surprise me. I've lost count of how many times the POP3
> and/or SMTP servers have been down. Honestly, if there was an award
> for the worst ISP, Freeserve would win it, no contest :/
It's funny how they were voted the best free ISP by afb members then... :(
All the best,
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Message 15461
From: "Ben Vost"
Subject: [afb] Re: APDF
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:52:34 +0100
Hi j.hart@ukonline.co.uk,
> I cannot get Apdf to work- I get the error "cannot create port list" when
> I try to load a PDF document. I have Gzip installed correctly. I am using
> the PPC version (does it work under WarpOS with emulation?).
According to Rich here it doesn't, unfortunately...
All the best,
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Message 15462
From: "Ben Vost"
Subject: [afb] Re: AmIRC & ARexx
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:57:56 +0100
Hi Danny,
> I was just wondering if there is an Arexx command to allow me to close the
> connection with an IRC server that AmIRC is using.
Have a look through AmIRC's Arexx docs.
> PS does anyone know of a spell checker that YAM can use so I can use the
> 'Type and Spell' option?
Usually ASpell or iSpell. You can get them both from Aminet.
All the best,
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Message 15463
From: "Ben Vost"
Subject: [afb] Re: (OT) Shares
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:58:54 +0100
Hi Ken,
> goody as i'm thinking of buying some shares in them when they come up for
> sale ;-)
If you're interested in buying shares Future gets floated on Friday
(seriously).
All the best,
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Message 15464
From: "Ben Vost"
Subject: [afb] Re: Xpdf
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:02:01 +0100
Hi Gerald,
> Hi, I'm trying to install Xpdf 0.8 on my Amiga, but according to the docs
> it requires the X11R6.3 installation which is distributed with Geek
> Gadgets. Since I don't have any GG CDs I had a look for it on Aminet, but
> no luck there (at least not doing a search for x11, I may be looking for
> the wrong thing..) Can anyone help me out here? Thanks,
Yeah, get APDF instead! Nice MUI interface, etc...
All the best,
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Message 15465
From: "Ben Vost"
Subject: [afb] Re: APDF
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:03:34 +0100
Hi Gerald,
> I've seen a few people having problems running APDF on their PPCs, but has
> anyone had trouble running the 68k version? When I start it from either
> Workbench or the CLI all I get is a Line 1111 Emulator Error. I have gzip,
> MUI, and everything else the docs say it requires. Am I missing something,
> or is it just very unstable atm?
Works fine here on an 060/72MB, CV3D, but it is slow to start up and hasn't
been compiled with the Japanese fonts extension (doh!).
All the best,
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Message 15466
From: "Ben Vost"
Subject: [afb] Re: PPaint 7.1b (was Thanks for the info)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:05:02 +0100
Hi Vincenzo,
> BTW, I bought it after I tried the Cover Disc. You see, is not a bad idea
> to put on the cover disc complete version of old piece of software. I know
> that Ben would not agree with it, but that is just my opinion. And no, I
> am not starting a new thread ;)
Older software, maybe, although putting a full version of 7.0 on our CD when
the later version 7.1 wasn't much improved went against my grain. I dare
say there are a lot of people still on this list that *didn't* upgrade.
All the best,
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Message 15467
From: "Ben Vost"
Subject: [afb] Re: Mission : Impossible ? (To be undertaken by B. Vost & Associates)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:07:54 +0100
Hi Gerald,
>> Your mission and that of your AF team should you choose
>> to accept it is to get the word AMIGA to appear somewhere (anywhere
>> ?) in this issue.
> If it's due to be released next month won't the magazine have been written
> already? Or at least most of it will have been, let's just hope someone
> has already had this idea :)
It's too early yet. What would they say? "Oh yeah, the Amiga will be able to
do everything. Sorry we've no proof of that, you'll just have to trust us"?
All the best,
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Message 15468
From: "Ben Vost"
Subject: [afb] Re: Amiga font
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:11:08 +0100
Hi 4-0,
> Does anyone know the name ofthe font used for the "AMiGA" text logo? Also,
> where can I get it from.
It's called Bodoni, designed by Giambatista Bodoni back in the sixteenth or
fifteenth century, but it's been bastardised to remove the serifs to give
it that distinct (dozy) Amiga look. The previous logo (C='s) was just
Garamond Halbfett Kursiv.
All the best,
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Message 15469
From: "Richard Drummond"
Subject: [afb] Re: APDF
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:49:13 +0100
Hello Andy
On 15-Jun-99, you wrote:
> I cannot get the FPU version to work. It's supposed to be 030+fpu/040 and
> 060, but it will not work. The 020 version works fine (I have a 030+882)
The 060 versions works on this 060 machine - but that's not much help to
you, is it?
> It seems to work very well; and doesn't seem to need a jumbo-stack like
> xpdf.
>
> re:Gzip, is there any special places all the bits should go? I just
> coppied the contents of the "bin/" dire to c:. is that OK? :} I couldn't
> find any installation details in the Docs..
I imagine it looks for gzip in your command path, so shoving it in C: will
be fine.
Cheers,
Richard
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Message 15470
From: j.hart@ukonline.co.uk
Subject: [afb] Re: Fonts (again)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:08:19 -0000
wrote:
Original Article: http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=15457
> Hiya ppl
>
> I'm tring to use Postscript fonts in the spline editor of Imagine v4, but no
> fonts come up on the font list. I think it's because I dont know how to
> install Postscript fonts. I've tried the intellifont proggy, but that dont
> work. Can anyone help?
> Cheers
You need an additional program called Type1.5 on Aminet for using Postscript Fonts.
John Hart
Message 15471
From: j.hart@ukonline.co.uk
Subject: [afb] Re: HHGTTG (Was BT-Internet, Fair competiti
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:18:36 -0000
<00e601beb772$3cf07960$2c94a8c-@david> wrote:
Original Article: http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=15430
> Sorry folks, I guess that's that then. Still, I'm going to keep looking for
> the Amiga version, my second hand PC copy lost it's manual many years ago -
> and it looks increasingly unlikely I'll be getting that copy off the 5 inch
> anytime soon either :-/
C64 Disk images of most of the infocom range are here:
ftp://arnold.c64.org/pub/games/
MagiC64 or Frodo can use them easily :)
John Hart
Message 15472
From: "Ben Vost"
Subject: [afb] Re: Fonts (again)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:19:11 +0100
Hi j.hart@ukonline.co.uk,
>> I'm tring to use Postscript fonts in the spline editor of Imagine v4, but
>> no fonts come up on the font list. I think it's because I dont know how
>> to install Postscript fonts. I've tried the intellifont proggy, but that
>> dont work. Can anyone help?
>> Cheers
> You need an additional program called Type1.5 on Aminet for using
> Postscript Fonts.
Not for Imagine you shouldn't. Postscript Type 1 fonts come in two different
files - an afm file and a pfb file. The pfb part is what you need for
Imagine - just point it in the right direction and it should find them.
All the best,
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Message 15473
From: 4-0 <4-0@beamer.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: Fonts (again)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:32:40 +0000
Hello Ben
On 16-Jun-99, you wrote:
> Not for Imagine you shouldn't. Postscript Type 1 fonts come in two
> different files - an afm file and a pfb file. The pfb part is what you
> need for Imagine - just point it in the right direction and it should find
> them.
K, Cheers :-)
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Message 15474
From: "Neil Bullock"
Subject: [afb] Upgrading
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:54:08 +0100
Hi,
Upon travelling to the bank yesterday, they gave me that interest stuff
that they tend to give you. My dad lets me spend the interest, so I want to
know what you think I should get for my Amiga. It's 114 btw.
Neil
Message 15475
From: "Ben Vost"
Subject: [afb] Re: Upgrading
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:54:50 +0100
Hi Neil,
> Upon travelling to the bank yesterday, they gave me that interest stuff=
> that they tend to give you. My dad lets me spend the interest, so I wan=
t
> to know what you think I should get for my Amiga. It's =A3114 btw.
Didn't we already do this for someone else? :) Directory Opus 5 Magellan =
II,
Kickstart 3.1 and Workbench 3.5 (when available).
All the best,
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Message 15476
From: "Neil Bullock"
Subject: [afb] Re: Upgrading
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:04:46 +0100
Hi Neil,
>> Upon travelling to the bank yesterday, they gave me that interest stuff
>> that they tend to give you. My dad lets me spend the interest, so I want
>> to know what you think I should get for my Amiga. It's 114 btw.
>Didn't we already do this for someone else? :) Directory Opus 5 Magellan
II,
>Kickstart 3.1 and Workbench 3.5 (when available).
Right... got DOpus Mag II, My dad is getting me KS3.1 and OS3.5 when they
come out so I don't have to pay for them... so I need other suggestions :)
Neil
Message 15477
From: "Ben Vost"
Subject: [afb] Re: Upgrading
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:02:01 +0100
Hi Neil,
> Right... got DOpus Mag II, My dad is getting me KS3.1 and OS3.5 when they
> come out so I don't have to pay for them... so I need other suggestions :)
Got a sub to AF? :)
All the best,
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Message 15478
From: "Neil Bullock"
Subject: [afb] Re: Upgrading
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:09:08 +0100
>
> Hi Neil,
>
> > Right... got DOpus Mag II, My dad is getting me KS3.1 and OS3.5 when
they
> > come out so I don't have to pay for them... so I need other suggestions
:)
>
> Got a sub to AF? :)
>
Yep, try again :)
Neil
Message 15479
From: 4-0 <4-0@beamer.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: Upgrading
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:16:39 +0000
Hello Neil
On 16-Jun-99, you wrote:
> Upon travelling to the bank yesterday, they gave me that interest stuff=
> that they tend to give you. My dad lets me spend the interest, so I wan=
t
> to know what you think I should get for my Amiga. It's =A3114 btw.
I'll send you my bank details.. ;-D
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Message 15480
From: "Ben Vost"
Subject: [afb] Re: Upgrading
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:19:20 +0100
Hi Neil,
> Yep, try again :)
In that case, spend the money on wine, women and song (should get you a
pint, a CD single and...)
All the best,
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Message 15481
From: "Neil Bullock"
Subject: [afb] Re: Upgrading
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:29:14 +0100
Hi Ben,
>
> > Yep, try again :)
>
> In that case, spend the money on wine, women and song (should get you a
> pint, a CD single and...)
>
Three problems: 1) I'm not old enough to buy alcohol :)
2) Local Woolworths is crap and sells nothing worth buying
3) That's nothing to do with my computer :)
Neil
Message 15482
From: Chris Andrews
Subject: [afb] Re: Upgrading
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 05:28:45 -0500 (CDT)
> In that case, spend the money on wine, women and song (should get you a
> pint, a CD single and...)
...some chocolates for your gran?
Considered a pre-order for FUSION or PCx?
bye,
Chris
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Message 15483
From: "Davies, Tudor (Tudor)** CTR **"
Subject: [afb] Re: Upgrading
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:29:35 +0100
Neil B penned in a mirthful way:
>Three problems: 1) I'm not old enough to buy alcohol :)
> 2) Local Woolworths is crap and sells nothing worth buying
> 3) That's nothing to do with my computer :)
These aren't problems - just mere obstacles :)
How about registering some shareware at WOA?
l8r
Tudor
Message 15484
From: "Neil Bullock"
Subject: [afb] Re: Upgrading
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:34:19 +0100
>
> > In that case, spend the money on wine, women and song (should get you a
> > pint, a CD single and...)
>
> ...some chocolates for your gran?
>
Hmmm.... can't think of anything to say to that one :)
>
> Considered a pre-order for FUSION or PCx?
>
However much I want to support the people making those things, I,
unfortunately, have no use for the products in question.
Neil
Message 15485
From: "Neil Bullock"
Subject: [afb] Re: Upgrading
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:35:15 +0100
>
> Neil B penned in a mirthful way:
>
> >Three problems: 1) I'm not old enough to buy alcohol :)
> > 2) Local Woolworths is crap and sells nothing worth buying
> > 3) That's nothing to do with my computer :)
>
> These aren't problems - just mere obstacles :)
>
> How about registering some shareware at WOA?
>
Can't go to it :( Going on holiday the day it starts :(((( Although
I could register some shareware without going... Ok, that's one
suggestion on the list of things to do :)
Neil
Message 15486
From: "Davies, Tudor (Tudor)** CTR **"
Subject: [afb] Re: Upgrading
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:34:56 +0100
Neil B wrote:
>>>>Right... got DOpus Mag II, My dad is getting me KS3.1 and OS3.5 =
when
>>they come out so I don't have to pay for them... so I need other
suggestions
>> Got a sub to AF? :)
>Yep, try again :)
If you need some hardware (cheap) check out www.dabs.com
Click on Products - B Grade Stock.
I picked up a Pace 56 Voice and a 1.7Gb HDD for =A3122 -
incl VAT and P&P - bargain.....
Modem had a damaged box and the disk had no drivers
and was not in the original box - like I care :)
l8r
Tudor
Message 15487
From: andy.k2@ukonline.co.uk
Subject: [afb] Re: Upgrading
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:38:05
>Hi,
>Upon travelling to the bank yesterday, they gave me that interest stuff
>that they tend to give you. My dad lets me spend the interest, so I want to
>know what you think I should get for my Amiga. It's 114 btw.
>
>Neil
I would but 114 quids worth of Amiga stuff.
Regards
Andy
>
Message 15488
From: andy.k2@ukonline.co.uk
Subject: [afb] Re: Upgrading
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:43:07
>>
>> Hi Neil,
>>
>> > Right... got DOpus Mag II, My dad is getting me KS3.1 and OS3.5 when
>they
>> > come out so I don't have to pay for them... so I need other suggestions
>:)
>>
>> Got a sub to AF? :)
>>
>
>Yep, try again :)
>
>Neil
Greetings,(accidently sent this direct, sorry)
Register all your unregistered sharware.
regards,
Andy
Message 15489
From: "Sealey, M."
Subject: [afb] Re: APDF
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:24:23 +0100
It crashes with Line 0101 Emulator Error on mine.
Funny, I have an MMU and FPU so AFAIK I shouldn't get that
error.. unless it's REALLY badly coded or REALLY badly
optimised..
Neko
-----Original Message-----
From: j.hart@ukonline.co.uk [mailto:j.hart@ukonline.co.uk]
Sent: 15 June 1999 18:08
To: afb@eGroups.com
Subject: [afb] APDF
I cannot get Apdf to work- I get the error "cannot create port list" when I
try to
load a PDF document. I have Gzip installed correctly. I am using the PPC
version
(does it work under WarpOS with emulation?).
John
Message 15490
From: "Neil Bothwick"
Subject: [afb] Re: Freeserve dying AGAIN?
Date: 16 Jun 1999 10:30:32 +0100
Ben Vost said,
> Hi James,
>> Honestly, if there was an award
>> for the worst ISP, Freeserve would win it, no contest :/
> It's funny how they were voted the best free ISP by afb members then... :(
Now try converting each number of votes to a percentage of the number
of customers each ISP has :-O
In the independent ISP survey in Internet.works, Freeserve didn't
even make the Top 50. X-Stream managed 24th so the competitionwasn't
exactly hot in the lower half of the table.
Neil
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Message 15491
From: "Neil Bothwick"
Subject: [afb] Re: APDF
Date: 16 Jun 1999 10:31:52 +0100
Richard Drummond said,
>> re:Gzip, is there any special places all the bits should go? I just
>> coppied the contents of the "bin/" dire to c:. is that OK? :} I couldn't
>> find any installation details in the Docs..
> I imagine it looks for gzip in your command path, so shoving it in C: will
> be fine.
Or set the GZIPCMD tooltype with the full path to GZip.
Neil
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Message 15492
From: "Richard Drummond"
Subject: [afb] Re: APDF
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:37:38 +0100
Hi Neil
On 16-Jun-99, you wrote:
>> I imagine it looks for gzip in your command path, so shoving it in C:
>> will be fine.
>
> Or set the GZIPCMD tooltype with the full path to GZip.
You don't expect me to actually read the docs, do you?
Cheers,
Richard
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Message 15493
From: "Neil Bothwick"
Subject: [afb] Re: Upgrading
Date: 16 Jun 1999 12:43:24 +0100
Neil Bullock said,
> Upon travelling to the bank yesterday, they gave me that interest stuff
> that they tend to give you. My dad lets me spend the interest, so I want to
> know what you think I should get for my Amiga. It's 114 btw.
A year's subscription to Wirenet :)
Neil
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Message 15494
From: Alex Timiney
Subject: [afb] Re: AI hardware.
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:26:07 -0700
Hi,
This may be a bit off the subject, but has anyone thought of making a
massive parallel proccessor, with about 1000 PIC style proccessors (ie
not very sophisticated, but has onboard memory is small and cheap), then
get each one to proccess a couple of thousand neurons?
Someone tried this for a gfx card, with each proccessor calculating
afew pixels each, and they managed to get realtime 3D rendered
animations of massive quality. Apply the same idea to NNs, and before
we know it, we'll have sentient computers of a sort.
Just a thought.
-Alex Timiney
Message 15495
From:
Subject: [afb] Re: A problem... (Oh no! Another one!)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 05:33:23 -0700 (PDT)
---j.hart@ukonline.co.uk wrote:
>
> I was wondering if the problems *started* when you did the flash...
>
> Just a theory.
No, I did the flash over a month ago.
---Mark wrote:
>
> I think the first thing you should do is see if your computer will
> boot from floppy workbench. Don't immediately assume that a part of
> your hardware has broken. Remove all your additional parts and then
> see if your hardrive will boot. If it does, try different combinations
> of hardware to see if you can eliminate which bits aren't causing any
> problems.
>
> You may well find, as I did the other day, that fiddling about with
> all your leads, etc, has fixed whatever the problem was.
I have checked all the leads etc and they are not faulty. I even removed the
board twice and put it back but to no avail.
Next, I tried booting WITHOUT the PPC... and the thing works perfectly. I can
get the machine to boot up with the card by removing the SETPATCH command, but
only to a 4-color screen. However, the problems persist. The machine operattes
very slowly (it is slower than without the board) and there is no fast memory
at all. The FPU programs don't crash (dunno why they crashed earlier) but
inform that they need a CPU to run. PPC programs simply freeze.
I took a closer look at my PPC board... there is some strange transparent
stuff around several component legs, as if something has melted there... at
least it LOOKS like so, I'm no electrician. One is on the 50mHz chrystal leg,
two are on the fan's legs, and fourth on the battery's minus leg.
I'm sending the card for repairs... there is SOMETHING faulty on it. Thanks
for the help anyway.
- Jani M.
* A1200(T), PPC603e/040, 24X CDROM, 15" SVGA, 200W PSU, HP660 Deskjet *
* Amiga (ab)user since '88 *
Message 15496
From: Alex Timiney
Subject: [afb] Re: Upgrading
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:34:03 -0700
Neil Bullock wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Upon travelling to the bank yesterday, they gave me that interest stuff
> that they tend to give you. My dad lets me spend the interest, so I want to
> know what you think I should get for my Amiga. It's 114 btw.
>
> Neil
Why don't you not spend it? That way the next time you get a load of
interest, you'll get even more.
Alex Timiney
Message 15497
From: j.hart@ukonline.co.uk
Subject: [afb] Fonts on the Brain (AKA Fontmania)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:40:17 -0000
Anyone know of a cheap way to get good fonts. I`m looking for a CD or maybe a web source- primarily fonts for WP and DTP in Postscript and Truetype formats. I generally need the most common names- Times, Arial, Dingbats etc.
Or maybe even Compugraphic? Can you get all the top fonts?
Are the majority of PS or TT fonts copyrighted?- I mean- do you have to buy them from somewhere?
What is the better (in terms of speed, compatibility and quality) font library to use with the AmigaOS if you want good scalable proportional fonts; the Bullet.library that comes on WB3.1, the Type1 Postscript engine or the Truetype library?
Regards
John Hart
Message 15498
From: "Sam Castillo"
Subject: [afb] Re: Pronouncing (was: EZ-PZ ?)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 23:41:06 +0100
> On 10 Jun 1999, Paul Cundle wrote:
> > > How about www. So far I've heard
> > > - wuh wuh wuh
> > > - woo woo woo
How about "triple dub".
it was an internet buzzword about a year back (I know it`s true `cos I read it
in Wired! ;) ) and I`m still using it. Most people know what it means.
Message 15499
From: j.hart@ukonline.co.uk
Subject: [afb] Thought for an article
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:55:31 -0000
I just had a thought for an article that could fit in with OS 3.5 (or maybe DOpus). It would be about setting up a really good workbench from scratch, in a step by step diary kind of format- One of the AF journo`s would set about installing a useful WB from a list of useful bought and shareware purchases- going through the installation procedures and showing tips on how to use the installer, keeping logfiles, assigns, dealing with drawers, using the prefs programs and other ways of optimising the system. It would be like a follow up to the spring clean article. Illustrations would show how the Workbench develops as you go along- e.g "now we see the toolbar in position, one click and the text editor pops up, using the preference file that is located in ENV:", that sort of thing.
John
Message 15500
From: "Matt Sealey"
Subject: [afb] Re: Fonts on the Brain (AKA Fontmania)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:00:29 +0100
Try http://home.sprynet.com/~ragriffi/ttflib.htm
At the bottom is a huge bunch of font source links. Arial etc. can be found
on most Windows machines in Truetype (ttf) format.
Incidentally, that page also holds the ttf.library so you can use them on
your Amiga :)
I would say use Truetype or Postscript as Compugraphic seems to lack
the definition that the other two have - the "hinting" is nowhere near as
good as TTF and the resolution and scope is nowhere near as complex
as Postscript..
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Computer Centre
University of Leicester
Message 15501
From: "Ben Vost"
Subject: [afb] Re: Fonts on the Brain (AKA Fontmania)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:05:05 +0100
Hi j.hart@ukonline.co.uk,
> Anyone know of a cheap way to get good fonts. I`m looking for a CD or
> maybe a web source- primarily fonts for WP and DTP in Postscript and
> Truetype formats. I generally need the most common names- Times, Arial,
> Dingbats etc.
> Or maybe even Compugraphic? Can you get all the top fonts?
Get the Phase 1, 2 and 3 CDs from EMComputergraphic
(http://www.emcomp.demon.co.uk).
> Are the majority of PS or TT fonts copyrighted?- I mean- do you have to
> buy them from somewhere?
Sometimes, but there are also freebie fonts copied from most of the
copyrighted typefaces, just with different names, and not usually so
well-made.
> What is the better (in terms of speed, compatibility and quality) font
> library to use with the AmigaOS if you want good scalable proportional
> fonts; the Bullet.library that comes on WB3.1, the Type1 Postscript engine
> or the Truetype library?
The CG one is the fastest, but if you have a speedy machine there isn't a
lot of difference between them.
All the best,
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Message 15502
From: "Ben Vost"
Subject: [afb] Re: Thought for an article
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:06:34 +0100
Hi j.hart@ukonline.co.uk,
> I just had a thought for an article that could fit in with OS 3.5 (or
> maybe DOpus). It would be about setting up a really good workbench from
> scratch, in a step by step diary kind of format- One of the AF journo`s
> would set about installing a useful WB from a list of useful bought and
> shareware purchases- going through the installation procedures and showing
> tips on how to use the installer, keeping logfiles, assigns, dealing with
> drawers, using the prefs programs and other ways of optimising the system.
> It would be like a follow up to the spring clean article. Illustrations
> would show how the Workbench develops as you go along- e.g "now we see the
> toolbar in position, one click and the text editor pops up, using the
> preference file that is located in ENV:", that sort of thing.
It's a good idea, and something I thought of doing about a year ago. The
reason we didn't is because of the fact that it's very hard to write a
piece like that without the piece ending up very boxy. It's also hard to
illustrate. However, thanks for reminding me of it, perhaps it's worth a
second look.
All the best,
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Message 15503
From: "Davies, Tudor (Tudor)** CTR **"
Subject: [afb] Re: Thought for an article
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:18:57 +0100
Ben V typed feverishly:
>It's a good idea, and something I thought of doing about a year ago. The
>reason we didn't is because of the fact that it's very hard to write a
>piece like that without the piece ending up very boxy. It's also hard to
>illustrate. However, thanks for reminding me of it, perhaps it's worth a
>second look.
Personally, I would like to see something like this. If we continue to see
head-to-head comparisions of various bits of software, this could be
incorporated into it - best of the bunch gets installed in next months
article on building the best workbench (if relevant!)
Of course, some will complain "I don't like that proggy" or "it conflicts
with
xxxxxxx", but if explained in a detailed way, then problems like these can
be worked around...
This leads me onto - put all the support files for the articles on the CD.
A la - "See the file "-In The Mag-/Workbench/Article3/xxxxxxx" instead
of putting all the information in the magazine - that way you lose the
"boxy" problem.
It also pees off the floppy readers - who will want to get a CD drive to
use these invaluable files....:)
Computer Arts do this all the time.... "blah, blah, blah (see the files on
the CD, blah, blah"...
l8r
Tudor
Message 15504
From: Chris Andrews
Subject: [afb] Re: Pronouncing (was: EZ-PZ ?)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:28:52 -0500 (CDT)
On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Sam Castillo wrote:
> How about "triple dub".
Brilliant, I've now started using rub-a-dub-dub thanks to you.
I'm subject to many strange looks around the office now. Alough I'm
often sporting my own.
bye,
Chris
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Message 15505
From: j.hart@ukonline.co.uk
Subject: [afb] Re: Fonts on the Brain (AKA Fontmania)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:30:51 -0000
<00ae01beb7f8$375a74c0$1b0cd28-@cfs.le.ac.uk> wrote:
Original Article: http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=15500
> Try http://home.sprynet.com/~ragriffi/ttflib.htm
>
> At the bottom is a huge bunch of font source links. Arial etc. can be found
> on most Windows machines in Truetype (ttf) format.
Thanks, I have downloaded a few already :) I have tried before getting them off of the WinNT machines but they were having none of it. I don`t know much about PC`s but I suppose I can`t just take system files that aren`t local. There are some TT fonts on Aminet I found though. Webfonts.lha.
>
> Incidentally, that page also holds the ttf.library so you can use them on
> your Amiga :)
Thank`s for that- new version as well (0.79 :)) I must get on some of these ML`s...
>
> I would say use Truetype or Postscript as Compugraphic seems to lack
> the definition that the other two have - the "hinting" is nowhere near as
> good as TTF and the resolution and scope is nowhere near as complex
> as Postscript..
I have found the external engines to be quite slow, I tried to use the fonts in Ibrowse which was a no-go. Then again compugraphic `aint quick. This Apdf viewer has reignited my interest in them though.
John Hart
Message 15506
From: "Ben Vost"
Subject: [afb] Re: Thought for an article
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:34:47 +0100
Hi Tudor (Tudor)** CTR **,
> Of course, some will complain "I don't like that proggy" or "it conflicts
> with xxxxxxx", but if explained in a detailed way, then problems like
these
> can be worked around...
Ah, yes, but sometimes these things really are just personal choices. I
installed MCP on my machine at home two nights ago in place of MCX, but I
don't like it much yet - talking of which - anyone know how to stop it
turning the power LED down (switching off the audio filter), or how I can
get it to position a window in the centre of the screen, like I can with
MCX?
> This leads me onto - put all the support files for the articles on the CD.
> A la - "See the file "-In The Mag-/Workbench/Article3/xxxxxxx" instead
> of putting all the information in the magazine - that way you lose the
> "boxy" problem.
Unfortunately you don't if you want to explain what to set up. As an
example, here's how to create a new button bank in Opus:
1. Choose "New > Text Buttons..." from the button menu
2. Add your buttons one by one by either dragging the program you want to
run onto the window with the button bank in it, or by adding the button
manually using the button bank editor's controls.
3. If you do the latter, make sure you use blah, blah, blah...
D'you see? It's not a natural flow, like most of the other copy in AF, and
it can be quite tiring as well as uninformative to read.
> It also pees off the floppy readers - who will want to get a CD drive to
> use these invaluable files....:)
Oh we want to do everything we can to persuade them to get a CD-ROM drive.
> Computer Arts do this all the time.... "blah, blah, blah (see the files on
> the CD, blah, blah"...
And we do have the "On the CD" logo at the top of the page to indicate this
too.
All the best,
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Message 15507
From: "R.S.Radford"
Subject: [afb] Re: PPC Problems
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:39:25 -0400 (EDT)
Thank for your help everyone, I still havent solved my PPC
it, so Ill give responses to your questions and see if that
helps. It another long email but it can`t be helped im
afraid.
> Have you tried the last owner of the PPC? Why did he/she sell it in the
> first place?
He defected to a PC shortly after, and was selling it for
money, to by a new graphics board.?
> It could be that the flash upgrade you are using is expecting a BVision?
How do I tell it I dont have a blizzard vision? What flash
update should I use instead.
> No, only 1D4 and early 2B motherboards suffered faults. Yours should be
> fine. In fact it is the revision Eyetech test their products on :)
I read on a web site that people have got PPC`s working
with my motherboard (1D1), so that cant be the problem as
you say.
>Ok, try changing the RAM mode to 60ns<>70ns
>visa-verser.
>My PPC runs fine with 60ns mode, but doesn't work in
>70ns mode ?! Weird.
Ive got it in 60ns mode at the moment, Ill try it in
70ns mode. Also what user config should I go for with
the ram (whats the safest setup).
>Also, try swapping the SIMMS to the other socket.
>For some reason this sometimes helps.
Ill try that, Ive currently got it in the slanting slot
>Finally, if all else fails, try a different SIMM. If
>it still does it looks like the board (or your A1200)
>is busted.
Ive got a spare 8mb arround so ill try that.
If the board was busted, surly it wouldnt work at all.
the 68K works fine and the PPC works for some
operations.
>I had the same same problem and found that 3.1 ROMs will
>cured this. The 3.1 ROMs have a longer (IDE?) boot up
>delay. You can also get around this in your
>startup-sequence by changing "C:SetPatch QUIET" to
>"C:run >NIL: C:SetPatch" (no quotes), this will delay the
>startup enough to stop SetPatch from crashing. It's still
>not as good as 3.1 ROMs, though.
When you say you had the same problem, does that mean with
PPC crashing, or with setpatch crashing. Ive done the run
setpatch thing, and it stops it crashing, ta for that. but
the PPC still dont work. Would I be betteroff using a newer
version of setpatch (PPC docs say dont use the lastest
version, warpup say do use the lastest). Will 3.1 roms make
PPC operation more reliable?
Also should I use the commodore 68040lib, or should I be
using the phase 5 68040.dummy and 68040new cobination? I am
currently using the later (latest version).
>From what I've read, etc. about ppc.library emulation, is that it's
>/still/ flaky, even in v4 of WOS. So, if this is causing
>you major problems, I'd advise you to stick with PowerUp
>for the time being and remove WOS until it's more stable,
>IMHO.
Im running revision 15 of warpup, I do not use revision 7
PPC emulation. The way I see It (maybe Im wrong), Warpup
revision 15 only effects Powerup operation once you start a
warpup program, where at it terminates the PPC.lib etc.
Warp up is only a collection of libaries, and as such
doesn't require any patches inserted at startup, and thus
should not afect powerup operation adversly, until used.
Therefor I should be able to use both set of programs
sucessfully.
>Have you set up correctly the PowerUP emulator in your
>startup-sequence? I had similar problems with previous
>versions of WarpUP, but now it seems all ok with version 4.
>It must be said, however, that I only did the first flash
>update (alot of time ago).
Im not using warp up in emelation mode, but could you
explain the correct way to set it up anyway. Would I be
better off reverting to a older version of the flash
update?
>I use version 43.6 of SetPatch and it's all right.
>I think it could be something to do with the last flash
>update you did; maybe you could try to ask someone at H&P
>(www.haage-partner.com) if there are any problems with
>that firmware. Or maybe it could be that it expects to
>find a BVision, as it has already been suggested.
The flash update was completed sucessfully, reporting done
at the end. The new 'escape' startup menu came up, so I
assume it flashed correctly.
How do I tell it theres no blizzardvision present?
Heres another thought, could the scsi interface be the
problem. I dont actually have any SCSI devices attached,
and dont use it at prersent. Is it possible that this is
interfering with the PPC etc. Is there anyway I can turn it
off to test, without turning of the board or ide harddisk.
Also It seems as if data is being corrupted by the ppc.
typically failed ppc programs write to illegal memory
locations, or complain that data given to them is corrupt
and then fail.
Right thats it. Again I am very greatful for any help.
Ta
----------------------
R.S.Radford
R.S.Radford.@uwic.ac.uk
Message 15508
From: "Davies, Tudor (Tudor)** CTR **"
Subject: [afb] Re: Thought for an article
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:48:40 +0100
Ben V penned in an editorial manner:
>Hi Tudor (Tudor)** CTR **,
Damnit :)
>D'you see? It's not a natural flow, like most of the other copy in AF, and
>it can be quite tiring as well as uninformative to read.
Yeah - I see what you mean.
>And we do have the "On the CD" logo at the top of the page to indicate this
>too.
Yep - noticed that... Haven't seen any "On The Floppy" logos though :)
Alright then - how about an article to explain all the options in FBlit and
when
to use them....Confuses the hell out of me :)
It all works, but I'm damned if I know why......
l8r
Tudor
Message 15509
From: "Sealey, M."
Subject: [afb] Re: Fonts on the Brain (AKA Fontmania)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:56:11 +0100
> > Try http://home.sprynet.com/~ragriffi/ttflib.htm
> >
> > At the bottom is a huge bunch of font source links.
> > Arial etc. can be found on most Windows machines
> > in Truetype (ttf) format.
>
> Thanks, I have downloaded a few already :) I have tried
> before getting them off of the WinNT machines but they
> were having none of it.
Are these at college/university or something? I would have
thought they'd restricted access to them, so I'm not surprised
you can't get at them.
I have no real experience of copying fonts from a NT4 system,
but you DO have to drag them out of the C:\WINNT\Fonts directory
first because it's a special folder..
> > Incidentally, that page also holds the ttf.library so you can
> > use them on your Amiga :)
>
> Thank`s for that- new version as well (0.79 :)) I must get on
> some of these ML`s...
I'm not on the MLs, I just check sites like that religiously :)
> > I would say use Truetype or Postscript as Compugraphic
> > seems to lack the definition that the other two have -
> > the "hinting" is nowhere near as good as TTF and the
> > resolution and scope is nowhere near as complex
> > as Postscript..
> I have found the external engines to be quite slow, I
> tried to use the fonts in Ibrowse which was a no-go.
Works fine here. I have my IBrowse set up as a "clone" to
my IE5 preferences at work. I use Verdana and Andale Mono
truetypes in IBrowse and it works fine. It takes an extra
10 seconds to load the first page, but then it DOES give
time for IBrowse to load some images etc. in :)
They're quick enough, anyway.
> Then again compugraphic `aint quick. This Apdf viewer has
> reignited my interest in them though.
Well I'd use it if it worked :)
I would say that the ttf.library and type1.library systems
are much faster and better quality than Compugraphics
systems by far, I think it's just the way Agfa designed
it isn't too optimal nowadays..
Neko
Message 15510
From: "Neil Bothwick"
Subject: [afb] Re: APDF
Date: 16 Jun 1999 13:17:13 +0100
Richard Drummond said,
> Hi Neil
>>> I imagine it looks for gzip in your command path, so shoving it in C:
>>> will be fine.
>>
>> Or set the GZIPCMD tooltype with the full path to GZip.
> You don't expect me to actually read the docs, do you?
Of course not, otherwise my post would have been redundant :)
Has anyone got the font mapping to work? I changed all the
Helvetica->helvetica.font maps to Helvetica->CGTriumvirate, similar
for other fonts. I saved the settings but next time I invoked Apdf it
had two lots of mappings, with the defaults appearing above my
settings. I deleted the dupes but they just came back next time.
Neil
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Message 15511
From: j.hart@ukonline.co.uk
Subject: [afb] Re: PPC Problems
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:11:36 -0000
wrote:
Original Article: http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=15507
> Also should I use the commodore 68040lib, or should I be
> using the phase 5 68040.dummy and 68040new cobination? I am
> currently using the later (latest version).
You should definitely use the Phase5 libs. The dummy is *in place* of the CBM library- it then passes the baton to the new Phase5 library which from that point is the library that is in use. You have to rename the 68040dummy.library to 68040.library.
> Im running revision 15 of warpup, I do not use revision 7
> PPC emulation. The way I see It (maybe Im wrong), Warpup
> revision 15 only effects Powerup operation once you start a
> warpup program, where at it terminates the PPC.lib etc.
> Warp up is only a collection of libaries, and as such
> doesn't require any patches inserted at startup, and thus
> should not afect powerup operation adversly, until used.
>
> Therefor I should be able to use both set of programs
> sucessfully.
15.. right- v15 of powerpc.library = Warpup4.0. I don`t know what you mean about revision 7 of ppc emulation- I think you`re thinking about when the kernal war was reversed! Use the ppc.library that is part of the 0.6d ppclibemu archive.
The best way is to get rid of ppc.library as soon as is possible- i.e during bootup. This is done with BPPCFix which is part of the WarpOS 4 archive. Read the docs that are part of the emulation package, though the command should be (just after setpatch, or before )-
C:Blizzppcfix Install Reboot >NIL:
Follow the instructions on what to set the PowerPC ENV variables as. The important one is TERMINATOR, which for emulation is set as 0 or 1. (not 2). I hope I`m right here, don`t blindly trust me as I`m remembering..
> Im not using warp up in emelation mode, but could you
> explain the correct way to set it up anyway. Would I be
> better off reverting to a older version of the flash
> update?
It`s quite easy now to set up the emulation. Just follow the docs one step at a time. Check everything is as it should be. I hope it works!
John
Message 15512
From: "Jack Thompson"
Subject: [afb] Re: Amiga font
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 07:14:06 -0700
>>>> "Ben Vost" 06/16 1:11 AM >>>
>Hi 4-0,
>
>> Does anyone know the name ofthe font used for the "AMiGA" text logo? =
Also,
>> where can I get it from.
>
>It's called Bodoni, designed by Giambatista Bodoni back in the sixteenth =
or
>fifteenth century, but it's been bastardised to remove the serifs to give
>it that distinct (dozy) Amiga look. The previous logo (C=3D's) was just
>Garamond Halbfett Kursiv.
>
>All the best,
>--=20
>Ben Vost (x2337) T: (+44) 01225 442244
>Editor, Amiga Format F: (+44) 01225 732275
Wow, how very Cliff Clavin-ish... that reminded me of the guy from Cheers =
that had all sorts of odd facts tucked away in his head...
I had to print that one out... Very cool by the way..
Later,
Jack
Message 15513
From: j.hart@ukonline.co.uk
Subject: [afb] Re: APDF
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:15:19 -0000
<1048.836t684t7972786nei-@wirenet.co.uk> wrote:
Original Article: http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=15510
> Has anyone got the font mapping to work? I changed all the
> Helvetica->helvetica.font maps to Helvetica->CGTriumvirate, similar
> for other fonts. I saved the settings but next time I invoked Apdf it
> had two lots of mappings, with the defaults appearing above my
> settings. I deleted the dupes but they just came back next time.
>
This happened with me. I think it may because you have the font tooltype on the icon in brackets. Untoggle it and it should work. IMHO I wish this program kept it`s prefs in ENV: as Tooltype prefs means I can`t get it to work through IDer. The wholeness and symmettry of my Workbench system is ruined! Until I get Magellan II :))
John
Message 15514
From: "Even Sandvik Underlid"
Subject: [afb] Re: Upgrading
Date: 16 Jun 99 16:08:13 +0500
Neil Bullock wrote:
>>>Upon travelling to the bank yesterday, they gave me that interest stuff
>>>that they tend to give you. My dad lets me spend the interest, so I want
>>>to know what you think I should get for my Amiga. It's 114 btw.
>>Didn't we already do this for someone else? :) Directory Opus 5 Magellan
>>II, Kickstart 3.1 and Workbench 3.5 (when available).
>Right... got DOpus Mag II, My dad is getting me KS3.1 and OS3.5 when they
>come out so I don't have to pay for them... so I need other suggestions :)
Got an A1200? If you have got a BlizzardPPC, save up for a BVision. If you
have got a tower without a BlizzardPPC, save up for a BlizzardPPC. If you
have got an untowered A1200, get a PowerTower.
Also, there's the possibility of preordering Fusion PPC if you've already
got a PPC board... should enable you to run thousands of pieces of PowerMac
software at full speed and functionality (probably including Quake 3, which
should be out for the Mac quite soon :).
--
Even Sandvik Underlid
Message 15515
From: "Richard Drummond"
Subject: [afb] Re: APDF
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 15:12:58 +0100
Hi Neil
On 16-Jun-99, you wrote:
> Has anyone got the font mapping to work? I changed all the
> Helvetica->helvetica.font maps to Helvetica->CGTriumvirate, similar
> for other fonts. I saved the settings but next time I invoked Apdf it
> had two lots of mappings, with the defaults appearing above my
> settings. I deleted the dupes but they just came back next time.
Same happened to me, but I just figured it was because I hadn't read the
manual. :-b
But to answer your question, the font mapping does work, it's just that the
GUI that seems a bit odd. Perhaps APDF scans the mapping table from bottom
to top? I'm using the type1 fonts supplied with ghostscript and I have
recreated gs's font.map in APDF's font prefs. Documents get displayed using
the fonts I requested, so I'm happy.
Cheers,
Richard
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Message 15516
From: "Jack Thompson"
Subject: [afb] Re: Upgrading
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 07:22:27 -0700
>>>> "Neil Bullock" 06/16 2:54 AM >>>
>Hi,
>Upon travelling to the bank yesterday, they gave me that interest stuff
>that they tend to give you. My dad lets me spend the interest, so I want =
to
>know what you think I should get for my Amiga. It's =A3114 btw.
>
>Neil
What model of Amiga do you have?
Later,
Jack
Message 15517
From: "Sealey, M."
Subject: [afb] Re: APDF
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 15:25:05 +0100
> This happened with me. [snip] I can`t get it to work through IDer
Drop IDer :)
Neko
Message 15518
From: j.hart@ukonline.co.uk
Subject: [afb] Re: APDF
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:34:13 -0000
wrote:
Original Article: http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=15517
>
> > This happened with me. [snip] I can`t get it to work through IDer
>
> Drop IDer :)
I don`t find it that bad actually. Someone has written a nice prefs program for it. It just doesn`t accept Tooltypes as arguments like Tool Manager does (It loads things as if from CLI). I use it as a gateway for reading docs, checking library versions etc). I`ll probably get rid of it in a couple of months, though it`s been good to me. What do you think of Tool Manager?- 3.1 went from being totally incomprehensable for me to set up to being from then on incredibly easy within about a week.
John
Message 15519
From: "Neil Bothwick"
Subject: [afb] Re: Fonts on the Brain (AKA Fontmania)
Date: 16 Jun 1999 15:15:29 +0100
j.hart said,
> I have found the external engines to be quite slow, I tried to use the fonts
> in Ibrowse which was a no-go. Then again compugraphic `aint quick.
Use Intellifont to build bitmaps in the commonly used sizes, so save
the library having to build them on the fly every time. It may not
help much with Apdf but speeds up browsers no end.
Neil
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--
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Message 15520
From: ultrasbm@hotmail.com
Subject: [afb] Re: UKOnlines bin directory
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 15:27:50 -0000
> No, UKOnline don't allow you to use CGI on your own site. But they
> couldn't care less if you use CGI from another site. IIRC, UKOnline
> have a kind of 'hosting' facility, you'll have to check the UKOnline
> tech support pages to see.
>
Why do UKOnline not allow you to use nor store CGI on your website?
What is so bad about them?
Is it because they can do something to the setting on the server, or to do with hacking or what?
Message 15521
From: "Matt Sealey"
Subject: [afb] Re: UKOnlines bin directory
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:37:28 +0100
> > No, UKOnline don't allow you to use CGI on your own site. But they
> > couldn't care less if you use CGI from another site. IIRC, UKOnline
> > have a kind of 'hosting' facility, you'll have to check the UKOnline
> > tech support pages to see.
>
> Why do UKOnline not allow you to use nor store CGI on your website?
It`s a security risk - writing and modifying files on the server without
them knowing is considered unreasonably risky even if the server is
extremely secure and your CGI is restricted to your home directory.
I don't think many ISPs let you use CGIs much, and if they do they
are VERY restrictive (Perl only on some IIRC..)
--
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester
Message 15522
From: "Neil Bothwick"
Subject: [afb] Re: APDF
Date: 16 Jun 1999 16:20:38 +0100
j.hart said,
> <1048.836t684t7972786nei-@wirenet.co.uk> wrote:
> Original Article: http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=15510
>> Has anyone got the font mapping to work? I changed all the
>> Helvetica->helvetica.font maps to Helvetica->CGTriumvirate, similar
>> for other fonts. I saved the settings but next time I invoked Apdf it
>> had two lots of mappings, with the defaults appearing above my
>> settings. I deleted the dupes but they just came back next time.
>>
> This happened with me. I think it may because you have the font tooltype on
> the icon in brackets. Untoggle it and it should work.
I tried that but it still adds the default settings to its list.
> IMHO I wish this
> program kept it`s prefs in ENV: as Tooltype prefs means I can`t get it to
> work through IDer.
I don't see why iy shouldn't work through IDer, it works as an
AmigaDOS command though Opus. It reads the config from the icon even
if started from a shell. MysticView also does this, it's quite a good
system.
Neil
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Message 15523
From: "Kevin Fairhurst"
Subject: [afb] Re: Upgrading
Date: 16 Jun 99 16:59:27 +0200
On Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:34:56 +0100, Davies, Tudor (Tudor)** CTR ** (tdavies=
@lucent=2Ecom) wrote:
> Neil B wrote:
>=20
> >>>>Right=2E=2E=2E got DOpus Mag II, My dad is getting me KS3=2E1 and OS3=
=2E5 when
> >>they come out so I don't have to pay for them=2E=2E=2E so I need other
> suggestions
> >> Got a sub to AF? :)
> >Yep, try again :)
>=20
> If you need some hardware (cheap) check out www=2Edabs=2Ecom
> Click on Products - B Grade Stock=2E
They've sometimes got some really good offers there=2E The shop in question
is Dabs Direct and is only a couple of miles away from where I live ;-)
=20
> I picked up a Pace 56 Voice and a 1=2E7Gb HDD for =A3122 -
> incl VAT and P&P - bargain=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E
I've never actually bought any B grade stock from them - whenever I've
tried it's gone already :(
=20
> Modem had a damaged box and the disk had no drivers
> and was not in the original box - like I care :)
Or would have used them if they HAD come with the proper drivers! :)
Kev
--=20
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 14701124
Message 15524
From: "Kevin Fairhurst"
Subject: [afb] Re: MCP settings (was Thought for an article)
Date: 16 Jun 99 17:12:03 +0200
On Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:34:47 +0100, Ben Vost (ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk) wrote:
> Hi Tudor (Tudor)** CTR **,
>
> > Of course, some will complain "I don't like that proggy" or "it conflicts
> > with xxxxxxx", but if explained in a detailed way, then problems like
> these
> > can be worked around...
>
> Ah, yes, but sometimes these things really are just personal choices. I
> installed MCP on my machine at home two nights ago in place of MCX, but I
> don't like it much yet - talking of which - anyone know how to stop it
> turning the power LED down (switching off the audio filter), or how I can
> get it to position a window in the centre of the screen, like I can with
> MCX?
The Audio filter option is in the Processor settings.
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by the "position a window in the
centre of the screen" - does this mean that any window you open is always
positioned in the middle of the screen? It doesn't sound very nice if it
is, and I'm not sure if yo ucan do it anyway!
[snip!]
> > It also pees off the floppy readers - who will want to get a CD drive to
> > use these invaluable files....:)
>
> Oh we want to do everything we can to persuade them to get a CD-ROM drive.
Free Scandanavian au pair with every CD issue? Ditching the floppy issue
completely and doing a special deal for them to subscribe and get a "cheap"
cd drive would be my solution, especially if they can pay monthly with
direct debit ...
> > Computer Arts do this all the time.... "blah, blah, blah (see the files on
> > the CD, blah, blah"...
>
> And we do have the "On the CD" logo at the top of the page to indicate this
> too.
Good point, and well put. However can you not get even more super whizzo
apps to put on the cd so you can go "Ha ha sad floppy users, look at the
stuff on the cd that you can't use! It's brilliant stuff but you're not
good enough to be able to use it! Har har!"
Well words to that effect ...
Kev
--
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Message 15525
From: Ferenczy
Subject: [afb] Re: Caller ID stuff
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:34:30 +0100
Hi Gerald
On 15-Jun-99, you wrote:
> Don't think it's a problem with the REN, there's never more than 2 phones
> and a modem connected at any one time. In what way could it be a problem
> with the modem cable? Here's the set-up, in case it helps...
Apologies if that diagram comes out crap on your mailer :)
It does, but don't worry about it...
> And I don't actually have 2 modems, as it looks on the diagram, just one
> that is moved between 2 computers.
Right, REN of a standard phone is 1, an extension cord off the main socket can
add a further 0.5, which people often forget. A modem can be anywhere from 1.0
to 2.0 as far as I know - worth checking out.
Also, what I meant about the phone cord is that you genreally get two kind of
faults - short circuit or a break in connection / poor connection. These lead
to two differnet faults - when the modem is plugged in, either all phones in
the house will start ringing, or all the phones will go dead. I forget which
way round causes which problem, but as long as you're aware of it that's the
main thing.
Remember that damage to cable, or compression - like being squeezed under a
door or bit of furniture will also increase the effective REN of the cable. I
only discovered this by chance after much ripping out of hair, so it's worth
remembering as well - protect those cables!
Regards,
Frost.
--
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Message 15526
From: Ferenczy
Subject: [afb] Re: Freeserve dying AGAIN?
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:42:32 +0100
Hi Tom
On 15-Jun-99, you wrote:
> 8000 calls an hour at 50p a minute that makes for a nice tidy sum. No
> where's my 'How to start up a flakey free ISP with hight cost technical
> support' book? ;)
Well, I have to say that if the people are too daft to check the Service Status
bit on the webpage, then they're not in a position to complain about the cost
of the service - I always tell them to check the site if they call in - maybes
one day they'll remember to look there first!
I would say as well that if they read the help files on the CD, around 90% of
total support calls would stop, since the answers for virtually everything are
there, and they're displayed in a reasonably clear way (for once!).
Regards,
Frost.
--
I either want less corruption, or more chance to participate in it.
Message 15527
From: Ferenczy
Subject: [afb] Re: Word Processor packages
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:44:53 +0100
Hi fool
On 15-Jun-99, you wrote:
> I take it you've tried snoopdos already?
Yep, it gives no clues at all under WB 3.0 on my A4000, but crashes immediately
on loading muilowlevel.library on my A1200 running DOpus Magellan 5.66.
Then again, it is V1.0, so I don't expect too much yet. I like the look of it,
and it could become a permanent addition to my main progs if I can get it to
settle down.
Regards,
Frost.
--
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Message 15528
From: Ferenczy
Subject: [afb] Re: IMPORTANT OT: Phone line thieves
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:49:34 +0100
Hi Gerald
On 15-Jun-99, you wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
>> I just got a mail from a friend. Apparently there are hoax phone calls
>> being made. They claim to be from "AT & T" and say they are doing a
>> line check. They ask you to dial 90# to check the line. DON'T DO IT.
>> It enables them to continue using your phone line after you hang up,
>> charging any calls they make to your phone bill.
>
> But why would AT&T be checking a BT line? This sounds a lot like a urban
> legend, one that probably originated in the US. If anyone knows different
> then sorry for butting in, but it looks a lot like a hoax to me.
Maybes they haven't thought that bit out very well - maybes we should pass that
along to them... ;-) The phone number "hack" is quite correct BTW, but not well
known - at least it didn't use to be!
It only works for the next call also, not multiple calls... It's generally used
by BT technicians when they're on site at a customer's house so that if they
do a check from that end, it won't cost the customer anything. Why they don't
use an 0800 number of some sort is beyond me!
Aha - just read on a bit and the phone phreakers were just an urban myth...
Good. ;-)
Regards,
Frost.
--
"Bother," said Pooh, as the the drug squad broke down the door.
Message 15529
From: Ferenczy
Subject: [afb] Re: Rules and regs
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 17:19:40 +0100
Hi James
On 15-Jun-99, you wrote:
> Okay, here it is. I usually put 'ADMIN README! - Rules posting
> (15 Jun 1999)' in the Subject: line, so that it jumps out amongst
> other mails.
> This may be a long message, but it is important that you read all of
> it, otherwise you stand a risk of inadvertantly breaching the rules.
> Thank you for obeying these rules, keeping this list free for
> productive messages, rather than unproductive bandwidth wasting.
Well, I had a good old read of the rules, and yes, I would agree that they are
_very_ strict indeed. The only item that concerns me on a list this size is that
it would in itself take a good length of time to moderate using rules as
comprehensive as that.
I'd also like to believe that certain of these rules are already in place as I
can't imagine Ben tolerating racial, etc, comments on this list and would
probably ban anyone like that anyway.
If such rules were enforced, I think Ben would need help from several other
people, as he already has a vast amount of work to do as it is, which without
being crawly about it would like to thank him for, as he hardly ever (!)
complains about it all, and shows exceptional patience at times...
BTW, as far as my Remote Filtering option goes for removing annoying emails
from my reading list, I'm now up to FIVE addresses, althoughtwo f those are two
addresses by the same individual. This seems to have killed off around 75% of
all the annoying mail, so it would seem that it's a small group of individuals
who "offend"... ;-)
Regards,
Frost.
--
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Message 15530
From: Ferenczy
Subject: [afb] Re: Xpdf
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 17:42:11 +0100
Hi Gerald
On 15-Jun-99, you wrote:
> Hi, I'm trying to install Xpdf 0.8 on my Amiga, but according to the docs it
> requires the X11R6.3 installation which is distributed with Geek Gadgets.
> Since I don't have any GG CDs I had a look for it on Aminet, but no luck
> there (at least not doing a search for x11, I may be looking for the wrong
> thing..) Can anyone help me out here? Thanks,
X11 is a home automation standard (vey good BTW), so that's why you probably
got loads of obscure hits for it.
I'd go with APDF personally - my system is really badly setup at the moment
with loads of out-of-date and mssing files, and it still works fine... That's a
good recommendation for me! Having to install loads of extras just to get
something working - especially GG stuff - any GNU / Unix type stuff always
seems to come in an MFI (as in the furniture people, not a weird file type)
format - ie. a bunch of files that you have to sort out yourself. geeks might
like that, but I like the conventional stuff - either drag the drawer onto your
hard drive, or follow an installer program. :-)
Update : Damn, just read one of your later messages saying you'd tried the 68K
version of ADPF, same as me. It seems like a big resource-eating program, so
maybes that's the problem? Check free memory, and stack values. Also disable
any programs like MCP / MultiCX, just in case... You could always try SnoopDOS
as well. :-)
Regards,
Frost.
--
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Message 15531
From: Ferenczy
Subject: [afb] Re: AI
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 17:49:02 +0100
Hi Andrew
On 15-Jun-99, you wrote:
> Currently the most advanced nural net running on some super computer has the
> intelligence of a kitten. Can you imaging a cat trying to play Napam?
Actually, I find this quite worrying for some reason - last time I looked at
NN, they had intelligences rated at cockroach level - I hadn't realised they'd
advanced so much. Must be all that extra processing power and memory?
For some reason, I have a very vivid image of a several ton, chrome-plated,
terminator-like killing machine attempting to climb my curtains and playing
havoc with unattended balls of wool... ;-)
Perhaps the next version of Aibo could be already on the drawing board? Either
that or I should stay off the chees before going to bed.
Out of interest, are there any NN-related proggies on the Amiga that are easy
to set up and mess around with? I seem to remember that the registered version
of Visage actually has a file called neuralnet.library, as it attempts to learn
your personal preferences for viewing images or something?
Regards,
Frost.
--
Eventually, you must pay for your sins. Exact change, please.
Message 15532
From: "Tom Miles"
Subject: [afb] Re: A Blitz Problem
Date: 16 Jun 99 16:22:17 +0000
On 15-Jun-99 16:12:10, Danny Shepherd said:
>Hello All,
>I've hit a small problem in Blitz2
>I cannot work out how to read the system variable RC. What i'm trying to do
>is see if Genesis is connected by
>RXSendCommand "GENESIS","ISONLINE 'Free-Call'"
>This will cause Genesis to set RC to
>0: Offline
>1: Online
>2: Connecting
>But how do I get at RC?
IIRC you can't get the value back from a rexx message. That's to say, when
I was writing in Blitz about 2 years ago you couldn't! Someone may have
created/found a way since then!
Tom
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Message 15533
From: Phil Price
Subject: [afb] Re: BSD
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 17:26:21 +0000
On 15-Jun-99 Danny Shepherd said, about '[afb] BSD':
> Hello All,
>
> I've just bought a nice new HD to put NetBSD from AFCD25 on but i'm
having
> big trouble installing it.
> I can succesfully install the system but I can't get X to work. I have
> installed it as per the instructions but messages such as
>
> "X: no screens"
Have you :) I've got a spare 640meg partitiono after adding a nice
1gig-really-cheap drive to my ide set, so how do you get this far, as i'd
liek to install a BSD just for the sake of it. I never really had much
luck, but i suppose it's somthing for me to do withall this spare time i
have ;)
As regards to your problem, it sounds like X-Windows can't find a screen,
maybe you have to define some-sort of desktop/screen setting for x to use,
but this is just a guess.
Yours
--
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Message 15534
From: Phil Price
Subject: [afb] Re: CD-Writer
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 17:24:09 +0000
On 15-Jun-99 Bill said, about '[afb] CD-Writer':
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I am contemplating getting an external CD-Writer to connect to the Amiga
> 1200 squirrelscsi. link.
>
> Would a PC unit work?
Yup, I've got an ide writer, but still it was no supported by MakeCD 3.2 by
default, but makecd being the wonderful piece of kit it is, worked
everything out for me and it works just great, so there shoudl be no
problems, if you want to get makecd then, http://www.hisoft.co.uk is the
place to go, it's well worth the registration fee, allthow it does seem a
little steep.
Yours
--
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e: drphil@halflife-central.com
e: phil@amigacentral.com
i: 21418142
[ http://www.halflife-central.com ]
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Message 15535
From: david.baker@ukonline.co.uk
Subject: [afb] Download Speeds
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 17:43:58 -0000
Hello
Yesterday I was downloading some files and noticed that the average
speed I was achieving was 3000cps. Is this a good speed?, or is it
about time I moved from Ukonline and subcribed to a server with less
users which should increase download speeds.
David
Message 15536
From: "Captain Kumquat"
Subject: [afb] Re: WinUAE
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 17:43:52 +0100
Hi all
Thanks for the help, I've a new question now - how can I get it to use my modem?
It's on COM3 and I've tried setting that as my serial port but that doesn't
work.
Tatty byes
--
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WWW: http://freespace.virgin.net/anna.furmanski
Pack my box with five dozen liquor jugs.
Message 15537
From: "Captain Kumquat"
Subject: [afb] Re: My bad England
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 17:47:39 +0100
Hi P Gordon aka Mr Tickle
>> It's an atom with a missing electron...
>
>Nope. Thats a positive ion
Or 'cation' as we in the know call them. And that's "cat ion" not "cayshun".
Tatty byes
--
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Pack my box with five dozen liquor jugs.
Message 15538
From: "Captain Kumquat"
Subject: [afb] Re: APDF
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 18:11:39 +0100
Hi guys
>> This happened with me. [snip] I can`t get it to work through IDer
>
>Drop IDer :)
I've just had a bit of "deja view".
:-)
Tatty byes
--
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WWW: http://freespace.virgin.net/anna.furmanski
Pack my box with five dozen liquor jugs.
Message 15539
From: "Steve Mepham"
Subject: [afb] Re: A shame but.....
Date: 16 Jun 99 18:53:52 +0100
Hi Ben,
> > Steve Mepham e-mail corvus@namlangis.u-net.com ICQ #34471132
> > Any Amiga users living near me in Kendal or South Cumbria ??
>
> Why not use AmigaSoc's Lost Souls database to see if there are any Amiga users
> living near you Steve?
>
> Ben
I am registered with the lost souls database but have heard nothing. I
emailed the contact as given on the AmigaSoc web page:
chrisl@uk.amigasoc.org to ask if anyone lived near me, but the email
was returned. Any ideas?
--
Steve Mepham e-mail corvus@namlangis.u-net.com ICQ #34471132
Any Amiga users living near me in Kendal or South Cumbria ??
Message 15540
From: "Phil Stephens"
Subject: [afb] Re: Upgrading
Date: 16 Jun 99 19:08:31 +0000
In PRIV.Amiga Format Neil Bullock wrote on Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:04:46 +0100 about [afb] Re: Upgrading
Hi Neil Bullock
> >> Upon travelling to the bank yesterday, they gave me that interest stuff
> >> that they tend to give you. My dad lets me spend the interest, so I want
> >> to know what you think I should get for my Amiga. It's 114 btw.
>
> >Didn't we already do this for someone else? :) Directory Opus 5 Magellan
> II,
> >Kickstart 3.1 and Workbench 3.5 (when available).
>
> Right... got DOpus Mag II, My dad is getting me KS3.1 and OS3.5 when they
> come out so I don't have to pay for them... so I need other suggestions :)
Well it would really depend on what you use your miggy for wouldn't
it, I mean it's no good suggesting get a printer, when your never
gonna use it ?
So question
What do you use your's for ?
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Message 15541
From: "Captain Kumquat"
Subject: [afb] Re: Save the cat! (was UKOnline - webspace info)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:01:07 +0100
Hi Matt
>> >> Children have the same inane sort of ability. They seem to be
>> >> able to lodge any foreign boy in any orifice
>
>I think you mean... innate :)
No, inane. I always say what I mean. Usually. And that "foreign boy" things -
hideous typo.
Tatty byes
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Message 15542
From: "Captain Kumquat"
Subject: [afb] Re: TLA's (was Backups & Miami)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:07:19 +0100
Hi guys
>ABackup was the one I used. I now use MakeCD for fortnightly backups
>and LhA for the daily ones, since you can set LhA to only archive
>changed files, but that only works if you have somewhere safe to store
>the LhAs, like a second hard drive.
Why LhA not LHA?
What does LhA stand for?
While I'm on it, how about LZX?
Tatty byes
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Message 15543
From: "Captain Kumquat"
Subject: [afb] Re: PC vs Amiga
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:16:20 +0100
Hi peeps
>Surely the way to look at this is purely from a users point of view. After
>all a personal computer is only a (wonderfully powerful) tool. If you
>picked up a screwdriver that felt uncomfortable compared to another you
>wouldnt use it, unless you didn't know any better.
Is anyone else really pissed of with the "computers are like tools" or "OS's are
like busses" analogies?
Tatty byes
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Message 15544
From: Gerald Mellor
Subject: [afb] Re: Fonts on the Brain (AKA Fontmania)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 15:44:50 +0100
Hi Matt,
>> Then again compugraphic `aint quick. This Apdf viewer has
>> reignited my interest in them though.
>
> Well I'd use it if it worked :)
What version of APDF are you using, and what processor do you have? If
you're using the 060 version, try the non-FPU version, as the 060 version
falls over with Line 1111 emulator errors on my 030/50.
Bauglir
Message 15545
From: Gerald Mellor
Subject: [afb] Sn-appicons
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:22:29 +0100
I can't remember if this has been asked before, but is there any way to
snapshot a MUI appicon? I replaced my YAM appicon today (using MCP's
AppChange feature) but now when I iconify my YAM window the icon appears in
the middle of my WB screen instead of down the left-hand side where it
usually is... Any help would be appreciated :)
Bauglir
Message 15546
From: "Samuel Brookes"
Subject: [afb] Re: AI
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:07:49 +0100
>Oo-er thats a bit general. What kind of AI are we talking about here?
>expert systems, decision support, neural nets, genetic algorithms etc.
>? It all depends on what kind of application your trying to build as
>to what sort of info you need.
Im looking for AI of the police men in GTA, i have an idea how to do it and
i think it will work, im just sure that there is an easier way.
The way i do it is to check the players position relative to the enemy by
checking the enemies and the players X and Y co-ordinates. this does seem to
work, but i know there are other ways and i wanted to know a few of them.
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Message 15547
From: R.A.Mercer@warwick.ac.uk
Subject: [afb] New Machine
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 18:40:03 -0000
Hi
About three or four years ago I let my subscription to AF fade away and after
a few months my Amiga Ended up in a box in the attic. The Other week I
was walking through WHSmiths and I noticed an issue of Amiga Format on
the shelf, so I picked it up and ended up buying it. Shortly after that I
went up into the attic and blew the dust of my Amiga and fired it up again.
Since then I've been messing aroud with it and since it's an A600 with a
massive 20Mb harddisk I think it's about time I got a new one! But I don't
know whether to go for a classic system, somthing like a A1200 Tower or wait
for the NG machines?
Any Ideas?
Cheers
Bob
Message 15548
From: "B. A . Volders"
Subject: [afb] Re: New Machine
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 20:45:40 +0100
Hello R.A.Mercer@warwick.ac.uk
On 16-jun-99, you wrote:
> Hi
>
> About three or four years ago I let my subscription to AF fade away and
after
> a few months my Amiga Ended up in a box ....
..... But I don't
> know whether to go for a classic system, somthing like a A1200 Tower or
wait
> for the NG machines?
>
> Any Ideas?
>
> Cheers
>
> Bob
>
>
>
My suggestion would be to try to get hold of a secondhand A1200 (with all
the sexy bits like accelerator, CD-Drive, harddisk). Or to take a look at
http://www.antigravity.com and look for the Boxer information.
Regards
Bert Volders
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Message 15549
From: ben@subway.demon.co.uk
Subject: [afb] Re: MCP settings (was Thought for an articl
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 18:47:34 -0000
> The Audio filter option is in the Processor settings.
Aha! Thanks. Neil told me to RTFM (but he did tell me what I asked for), but
the FM is so bloody bad. I searched on filter, audio, power and LED with no joy
looking for that sodding setting. Same goes for locking pens for the MWB
palette.
> I'm not sure I understand what you mean by the "position a window in the
> centre of the screen" - does this mean that any window you open is always
> positioned in the middle of the screen? It doesn't sound very nice if it
> is, and I'm not sure if yo ucan do it anyway!
MCX allows you to hit a hotkey (default is CTRL ALT c) to re-position the current
active window in the centre of the screen, which is very handy. I'd really like
to be able to do the same with MCP.
Ben
Message 15550
From: Danny Shepherd
Subject: [afb] Re: A Blitz Problem
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:46:48 +0000
Hello All,
On 15-Jun-99, rsdm@eee.rgu.ac.uk wrote:
> Isn't RC a standard system variable? If it is, then you could try this
> (bad) way of getting it.
> Execute_ "getenv RC > ram:temp"
> If ReadFIle(0,"ram:temp")
> FileInput 0
> ; read the number here, probably with Inkey$(1)
> CloseFile 0
> End If
I'm already doing a similar sort of thing but I need to check it frequently
ie aprox every second! The contant file access really drains system
performance.
Where is the Blitz List?
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Message 15551
From: ben@subway.demon.co.uk
Subject: [afb] Re: Download Speeds
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 18:55:29 -0000
> Yesterday I was downloading some files and noticed that the average
> speed I was achieving was 3000cps. Is this a good speed?, or is it
> about time I moved from Ukonline and subcribed to a server with less
> users which should increase download speeds.
I get between 3 and 6 here at home downloading archives. text files can be
anywhere up to 11. email, using YAM is usually at between 4-5. At work I
regularly get 85-600. :) At home I have a Pace Solo.
Ben
Message 15552
From: ben@subway.demon.co.uk
Subject: [afb] Re: Fonts on the Brain (AKA Fontmania)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 18:58:44 -0000
> What version of APDF are you using, and what processor do you have? If
> you're using the 060 version, try the non-FPU version, as the 060 version
> falls over with Line 1111 emulator errors on my 030/50.
Might that possibly be because it was compiled for an 060, and those of you
with lesser machines should use the non-FPU version?
Ben
Message 15553
From: ben@subway.demon.co.uk
Subject: [afb] Re: Sn-appicons
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 18:59:33 -0000
> I can't remember if this has been asked before, but is there any way to
> snapshot a MUI appicon? I replaced my YAM appicon today (using MCP's
> AppChange feature) but now when I iconify my YAM window the icon appears in
> the middle of my WB screen instead of down the left-hand side where it
> usually is... Any help would be appreciated :)
In YAM you can set where the appicon appears - you don't need any other tool to
do so.
Ben
Message 15554
From: "Neil Bothwick"
Subject: [afb] Re: CD-Writer
Date: 16 Jun 1999 18:55:50 +0100
Phil Price said,
> if you want to get makecd then, http://www.hisoft.co.uk is the
> place to go, it's well worth the registration fee, allthow it does seem a
> little steep.
Steep? It's remarkably good value, the alternatives are around twice
the price.
If you think the user version of MakeCD is expensive, you should see
the price of the commercial publisher version :(
Neil
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Message 15555
From: "Neil Bothwick"
Subject: [afb] Re: Download Speeds
Date: 16 Jun 1999 18:57:22 +0100
david.baker said,
> Yesterday I was downloading some files and noticed that the average
> speed I was achieving was 3000cps. Is this a good speed?, or is it
> about time I moved from Ukonline and subcribed to a server with less
> users which should increase download speeds.
That depends on the speed of your modem, the speed of your serial port
and the type of files you're down,loading.
With a 28K modem downloading LhA files it's a decent speed, but for
downloading news with a V90modem I get three times that speed.
Neil
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Message 15556
From: alex.paton@tesco.net
Subject: [afb] Re: Upgrading
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:05:01 -0000
<1016.836t670t9683222eunderl-@online.no> wrote:
Original Article: http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=15514
> Neil Bullock wrote:
>
> >>>Upon travelling..>
>Got an A1200? If you have got a BlizzardPPC,
>save up for a BVision. If you
> have got a tower without a BlizzardPPC, save up for a BlizzardPPC.
If you
> have got an untowered A1200, get a PowerTower......
>
> --
> Even Sandvik Underlid
>
My money is on the BVision Card. The Amiga becomes a hot handful with
one of these beasts.
AP
Message 15557
From: Andy Mills
Subject: [afb] Re: Fonts on the Brain (AKA Fontmania)
Date: 16 Jun 99 19:23:13 +0000
Hello j.hart, on 16-Jun-99 12:40:17 you said about:
[afb] Fonts on the Brain (AKA Fontmania)
>Anyone know of a cheap way to get good fonts. I`m looking for a CD or maybe a
>web source- primarily fonts for WP and DTP in Postscript and Truetype
>formats. I generally need the most common names- Times, Arial, Dingbats etc.
>Or maybe even Compugraphic? Can you get all the top fonts?
>Are the majority of PS or TT fonts copyrighted?- I mean- do you have to buy
>them from somewhere?
>What is the better (in terms of speed, compatibility and quality) font
>library to use with the AmigaOS if you want good scalable proportional fonts;
>the Bullet.library that comes on WB3.1, the Type1 Postscript engine or the
>Truetype library?
I use ttflib off Aminet and it works flawlessly here with TTF fonts. You
can then use the thousands of TTF fonts that are on the net - just do a
font search on Altavista....
Andy, who currently has around 5megs worth of fonts installed....
Oh, I think you'll also find that TTF will give you better quality than
Compugraphic.
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Message 15558
From: "Andrew Mills"
Subject: [afb] Re: UKOnlines bin directory
Date: 16 Jun 99 19:33:07 +0000
Hello ultrasbm, on 16-Jun-99 15:27:50 you said about:
[afb] Re: UKOnlines bin directory
>Why do UKOnline not allow you to use nor store CGI on your website?
>What is so bad about them?
Well, you could store CGI scripts on your website, but you can't use
them...
>Is it because they can do something to the setting on the server, or to do
>with hacking or what?
There is a security risk involved and the fact that some scripts can bog
down a server.
The only "dial up" provider that I know of that allows you to use CGI is
Enterprise, even then, they don't exactly seem to advertise that they
do.
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Message 15559
From: Andy Mills
Subject: [afb] Re: Mission : Impossible ? (To be undertaken by B. Vost & Associates)
Date: 16 Jun 99 19:15:35 +0000
Hello Ben Vost, on 16-Jun-99 08:07:54 you said about:
[afb] Re: Mission : Impossible ? (To be undertaken by B. Vost & Associates)
[snip]
>> If it's due to be released next month won't the magazine have been written
>> already? Or at least most of it will have been, let's just hope someone
>> has already had this idea :)
>It's too early yet. What would they say? "Oh yeah, the Amiga will be able to
>do everything. Sorry we've no proof of that, you'll just have to trust us"?
Couldn't they just put something like "new Amiga on the way, here's some
of the expected (or "proposed") features...". Surely they could just
make a mention that there *are* new machines coming out?
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Message 15560
From: "Carl Berry"
Subject: [afb] Re: Mission : Impossible ? (To be undertaken by B. Vost & Associates)
Date: 16 Jun 99 20:02:49 +0000
Hi Ben,
> It's too early yet. What would they say? "Oh yeah, the Amiga will be able to
> do everything. Sorry we've no proof of that, you'll just have to trust us"?
>
> All the best,
> --
> Ben Vost (x2337) T: (+44) 01225 442244
Well AF seems to manage every month ;) (ouch).
As for most of the mag already being written I'd already considered
this but with the amount psudeo physics thats been on the list
recently I thought every one had built their time machines by now ;)
(I have it was two weeks on friday ago).
Carl
Accy, Lancs.
Message 15561
From: alex.paton@tesco.net
Subject: [afb] Re: PPC Problems
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:16:16 -0000
wrote:
Original Article: http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=15392
> Hi everyone.
>
> Last week I sent a email, saying that I was experiencing
> problems with my PPC boar
Do you use any boot pic hacks? If you do take them out of your
start-up sequence. I had a similar problem with the card locking up
and rebooting.
AP
Message 15562
From: "Moat_Monster"
Subject: [afb] Re: New Machine
Date: 16 Jun 99 20:09:23 -0500
Hi
My suggestion would be as follows:
If you have the cash then I would suggest looking at either a second
hand highend miggy now and look at the AmigaaNG when it arrives.
However if money is a little short then I would suggest you wait for
the new Amiga at the end of this year as it will most likely be far
better value for money.
Peace
Zanthras
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Message 15563
From: "Neil Bothwick"
Subject: [afb] Re: MCP settings (was Thought for an articl
Date: 16 Jun 1999 20:11:44 +0100
ben said,
>> The Audio filter option is in the Processor settings.
> Aha! Thanks. Neil told me to RTFM (but he did tell me what I asked for), but
> the FM is so bloody bad. I searched on filter, audio, power and LED with no
> joy looking for that sodding setting. Same goes for locking pens for the MWB
> palette.
I had a look in TFM for audio, filter etc and got no joy. SearchGuide
is cool, but even that has limitations :(
>> I'm not sure I understand what you mean by the "position a window in the
>> centre of the screen" - does this mean that any window you open is always
>> positioned in the middle of the screen? It doesn't sound very nice if it
>> is, and I'm not sure if yo ucan do it anyway!
> MCX allows you to hit a hotkey (default is CTRL ALT c) to re-position the
> current active window in the centre of the screen, which is very handy. I'd
> really like to be able to do the same with MCP.
I use PWKeys for that, since it also allows for positioning at top,
left, top-left etc. I've had in in startup for more than ten years,
mapped to Left-Amiga plus the various numpad keys.
Neil
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Message 15564
From: "Carl Berry"
Subject: [afb] Re: AI hardware.
Date: 16 Jun 99 20:18:47 +0000
Hi Alex,
Its a nice idea but there are several problems. Firstly a lot of the
problems with NNs as with most of AI simply aren't anything to do with
pure speed and throwing processor time at them won't help a great
deal. Its more a case of understanding whats going on and trying to
figure out what the best approaches are (NNs won't solve everything).
As far as parallelism is concerned the trend recently in
supercomputers has been to string a lot of cheap off the shelf
processors together rather than just a couple of huge expensive types,
exceptions being Cray who just like building very big fast machines
with very big price tags. I seem to recall Intel (Boo Hiss) building
a very impressive machine out of hundreds of Pentiums. Trouble is
parallel programs are hard to write and not all processes benefit from
them. Its all to do with inherently sequential and parallel parts of
tasks as to how much of a speed up you get (anybody want the lecture
notes ?). As you mentioned though one of the real winners in
parallelism is graphics, especially ray tracing which because you can
get each processor to calculate independently with no communication to
other processes gets a halving of run time for a doubling of
processors (this is the often used example and one which manufactuers
quote because its about the only application that benefits like this).
Ah I knew the Highly Parallel Programming module would have a use one
day :)
Carl
Accrington, Lancs.
Message 15565
From: "Kevin Fairhurst"
Subject: [afb] Re: MCP settings (was Thought for an articl
Date: 16 Jun 99 20:32:12 +0200
On Wed, 16 Jun 1999 18:47:34 -0000, (ben@subway.demon.co.uk) wrote:
> > The Audio filter option is in the Processor settings.
>
> Aha! Thanks. Neil told me to RTFM (but he did tell me what I asked for), but
> the FM is so bloody bad. I searched on filter, audio, power and LED with no joy
> looking for that sodding setting. Same goes for locking pens for the MWB
> palette.
I use FastIPrefs for that - again, I think it is something that you can't
do from within MCP itself :(
And I agree with you on the manuals - they were never updated as often as
the program itself, so with v1.32 (11/07/98) of MCP I'm using the manual
dated May 5th 1998, v1.40e ....
> > I'm not sure I understand what you mean by the "position a window in the
> > centre of the screen" - does this mean that any window you open is always
> > positioned in the middle of the screen? It doesn't sound very nice if it
> > is, and I'm not sure if yo ucan do it anyway!
>
> MCX allows you to hit a hotkey (default is CTRL ALT c) to re-position the current
> active window in the centre of the screen, which is very handy. I'd really like
> to be able to do the same with MCP.
I've been using MCP for years now, I started as a beta tester about 5 years
ago! :-O
Anyway I don't think this is possible in MCP as it stands. The nearest
it gets is the "zoom window" hotkey which acts as though you clicked on the
"shrink window" gadget, which in itself usually puts windows into the
middle of the screen on my system, so why not use that? ;-)
Hope this helps,
Kev
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Message 15566
From: Ashley Scott
Subject: [afb] Re: A Blitz Problem
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 20:33:08 +0100
On 16-Jun-99, Danny Shepherd Wrote........
If I remember rightly, Email: blitz-list-subscribe@netsoc.ucd.ie
with subscribe in the subject.
I think thats it?
Regards
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Message 15567
From: "Samuel Brookes"
Subject: [afb] Re: A Blitz Problem
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 20:37:56 +0100
>Where is the Blitz List?
To subscribe to the list, send a message to:
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Message 15568
From: Gerald Mellor
Subject: [afb] Re: Xpdf
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 20:23:00 +0100
Hi Mr Frost,
> Update : Damn, just read one of your later messages saying you'd tried the
> 68K version of ADPF, same as me. It seems like a big resource-eating
> program, so maybes that's the problem? Check free memory, and stack
> values. Also disable any programs like MCP / MultiCX, just in case... You
> could always try SnoopDOS as well. :-)
I managed to get APDF working, but only the non-fpu version. Seems the 060
version doesn't like my 50MHz 68882. I like it better than xpdf, if only
because of the more Amiga-like interface. It does seem very processor
intensive, but then again it's no more processor intensive than running
Acrobat Reader through Shapeshifter, which was previously my preferred way
of viewing PDFs. So once I've got all these Type 1 fonts sorted out I'll be
happy :)
Bauglir
Message 15569
From: Danny Shepherd
Subject: [afb] Re: Download Speeds
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 20:17:15 +0000
Hello All,
On 16-Jun-99, ben@subway.demon.co.uk wrote:
> I get between 3 and 6 here at home downloading archives. text files can be
> anywhere up to 11. email, using YAM is usually at between 4-5. At work I
> regularly get 85-600. :) At home I have a Pace Solo.
I get about the same for archives and text but YAM never seems to get above
2.4/2.5 unless it is a very big file (over 100k) :(
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Message 15570
From: Danny Shepherd
Subject: [afb] Re: Freeserve dying AGAIN?
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 20:20:34 +0000
Hello Neil,
On 16-Jun-99, you wrote:
>
> In the independent ISP survey in Internet.works, Freeserve didn't
> even make the Top 50. X-Stream managed 24th so the competitionwasn't
> exactly hot in the lower half of the table.
>
Where did U-Net/Wirenet come?
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Message 15571
From: Danny Shepherd
Subject: [afb] Re: BSD
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 20:13:00 +0000
Hello All,
On 16-Jun-99, Phil Price wrote:
> Have you :) I've got a spare 640meg partitiono after adding a nice
> 1gig-really-cheap drive to my ide set, so how do you get this far, as i'd
> liek to install a BSD just for the sake of it. I never really had much
> luck, but i suppose it's somthing for me to do withall this spare time i
> have ;)
So far the system has been setup as per the installation guides. The inbuilt
installer actually makes the initial installation very painless, it's only
after that, when you're on your own, that you hit problems :)
> As regards to your problem, it sounds like X-Windows can't find a screen,
> maybe you have to define some-sort of desktop/screen setting for x to use,
> but this is just a guess.
Well I gathered that much. IFAIKT it has something to do with the numerous X
server config files. None of them have an example entry for AGA users. :(
I may ask at AmigaSOC as I remember seeing a few tutorials on NetBSD in AF
and on their site.
--
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UIN: 30044173
WEB: http://start.at/shepherd
I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat
us as equals.
-- Winston Churchill
Message 15572
From: Danny Shepherd
Subject: [afb] Re: TLA's (was Backups & Miami)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 20:48:53 +0000
Hello All,
On 16-Jun-99, Captain Kumquat wrote:
> What does LhA stand for?
Lempel Huffman Algorithm/Archiver (not sure which)
> While I'm on it, how about LZX?
Lempel Ziv (not sure what the X stands for)
--
Danny.
UIN: 30044173
WEB: http://start.at/shepherd
Software suppliers are trying to make their software packages more
'user-friendly'.... Their best approach, so far, has been to take all
the old brochures, and stamp the words, 'user-friendly' on the cover.
-- Bill Gates
Message 15573
From: Gerald Mellor
Subject: [afb] Re: New Machine
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 21:06:30 +0100
Hi Bob,
> Since then I've been messing aroud with it and since it's an A600 with a
> massive 20Mb harddisk I think it's about time I got a new one! But I don't
> know whether to go for a classic system, somthing like a A1200 Tower or
> wait for the NG machines?
According to the interview with Jim Collas in this month's AF, although
there will be NG machines within 6 months, it may be another year after
that before there is anything available which will do everything you may
want from your Amiga. Waiting for hardware that doesn't exist yet isn't
always a good idea.
Neither is towering up an A1200 :) A1200s weren't meant to be towered up, so
there are some compatibility problems associated with uprading them to
their full potential. Sure you can add a PPC, 060, graphics card, sound
card, SCSI, IDE accelerator, parallel and serial accelerators, etc, but an
A4000 is far more suited to the task. That doesn't mean a towered A1200
can't be an impressive system, that's the upgrade path I'm taking at the
moment, but sometimes I wish I had an A4000, as it would make things so
much easier.
Both A1200s and A4000s are *apparently* commonly found at good prices in
local 'mart' type papers, and the Classified sections of local newspapers.
Have fun upgrading :)
Bauglir
Message 15574
From: Danny Shepherd
Subject: [afb] Re: APDF
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 21:24:09 +0000
Hello All,
I know this has been said but where can I get this APDF?
Bye,
--
Danny.
UIN: 30044173
WEB: http://start.at/shepherd
What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone?
-- Bertolt Brecht
Message 15575
From: "Oliver Roberts"
Subject: [afb] Re: PPC Problems
Date: 16 Jun 99 20:37:47 +0100
On 16-Jun-99 19:39:25 BST, R.S.Radford wrote:
>>Ok, try changing the RAM mode to 60ns<>70ns
>>visa-verser.
>>My PPC runs fine with 60ns mode, but doesn't work in
>>70ns mode ?! Weird.
> Ive got it in 60ns mode at the moment, Ill try it in
> 70ns mode. Also what user config should I go for with
> the ram (whats the safest setup).
The safest setting is:
Read waitstate on
Write waitstate on
Precharge on
for both *68k and PPC*. However, it seems things are ok for you on the
68k side with the 60ns mode on. Therefore, set the *68k* settings to
the following:
No Read waitstate
No Write waitstate
Precharge off (you might need to set this to on)
For the *PPC* settings, start with
Read waitstate on
Write waitstate on
Precharge on
If that works, try turning the read/write waitstates off, one at a
time and see if things still work. You'll need to leave PPC precharge
on.
> Also should I use the commodore 68040lib, or should I be
> using the phase 5 68040.dummy and 68040new cobination? I am
> currently using the later (latest version).
Are you sure you've renamed the P5 libs correctly - IIRC,
there is a readme that briefly explains it. An install
script would have been much better though :)
> Im running revision 15 of warpup, I do not use revision 7
> PPC emulation. The way I see It (maybe Im wrong), Warpup
> revision 15 only effects Powerup operation once you start a
> warpup program, where at it terminates the PPC.lib etc.
> Warp up is only a collection of libaries, and as such
> doesn't require any patches inserted at startup, and thus
> should not afect powerup operation adversly, until used.
You should be able to use PowerUp programs initially, yes (until you
run a WarpUp program).
> Therefor I should be able to use both set of programs
> sucessfully.
Although not at the same time, obviously.
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Message 15576
From: "Bill"
Subject: [afb] Re:CD-Writer
Date: 16 Jun 99 21:32:47 +0000
Hi Everyone,
Thanks to Neil (Bothwick) for his info via mail list and private=2E
I am interested in a 4x4x16 Yamaha CD-Writer, at =A3297 bare scsci=2E
There seems to be 2 software packages available, Burnit and MakeCd=2E
My system is as follows:
SYSTEM : Amiga 1200
CHIPSET : AGA
CPU : 68030/40 MHz (Rev not found)
FPU : 68882/33 MHz
MMU : 68030 Not in use
OS : V40=2E68 (known as: 3=2E1)
EXEC : V40=2E10
WORKBENCH : V40=2E42
SETPATCH : V43=2E6
ROM SIZE : 512=2E0KB
GRAPHICS : AmigaOS
AUDIO : AHI V4=2E180
VBR : 0x00000000
DENISE : Lisa 8364 (Rev not found)
GARY : None
AGNUS : Alice 8374 Rev=2E 3-4 (Mode: PAL)
RAMSEY : None
BATTCLOCK : Found (working)
E-CLOCK : 709379 Hz
POWERPC : None
PPC CLOCK : not found
POWERPC OS : None
VBLANK : 50 Hz
POWER : 50 Hz
CHUNKYPLANAR: None
Mem:
REAL : CHIP: ~2=2E0MB FAST: 32=2E0MB TOTAL: ~34=2E0MB
VIRTUAL : CHIP: 0 FAST: 0 TOTAL: 0
TOTAL : CHIP: ~2=2E0MB FAST: 32=2E0MB TOTAL: ~34=2E0MB
SLOW : 0
Access Time, Width, CAS mode and bandwidth
from the MOTHERBOARD (!) RAM:
RAMACCESS : 80 ns
RAMWIDTH : 32 bit
RAMCAS : Double
RAMBANDWIDTH: 4x
ExtBoards:
Nr Address Size Manufacturer Product
--------------------------------------------------------------------
0 00E90000 64K ACT Apollo 1230 accelerator (working)
Has anyone installed said CD-Writer on their system and/or can anyone advis=
e me
whatsoever?
I shall be replacing my 2=2E1 GB HD with a 4=2E3GB soon=2E=2E=2E=2E
This is a completely new field for me and finance will only allow me to pur=
chase said hardware and software=2E
Thanks in anticipation
Bill
Message 15577
From: Peter Price
Subject: [afb] Re: Freeserve dying AGAIN?
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:35:26 +0000
Neil Bothwick scribbled with a virtual Biro about [afb] Re: Freeserve dyi=
ng AGAIN? :
> In the independent ISP survey in Internet.works, Freeserve didn't
> even make the Top 50. X-Stream managed 24th so the competition=A0wasn't=
> exactly hot in the lower half of the table.
Was this the survey that rated the Mirror's ic24 as best?
Oh, and does anyone else think that the whole free ISP business has got
WAYYYYY out of hand?
Best Regards
-- =
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Dildo.................... Variety of sweet pickle.
Message 15578
From: "Paolo Rinaldi"
Subject: [afb] Re: PPC Problems
Date: 16 Jun 99 22:45:00 +0200
Once upon a time there was a sage, R.S.Radford, who enlightened the world about
[afb] Re: PPC Problems
> Would I be betteroff using a newer
> version of setpatch (PPC docs say dont use the lastest
> version, warpup say do use the lastest). Will 3.1 roms make
> PPC operation more reliable?
I tried several versions of SetPatch but nothing changed: I had always
the same problems on bootup; this lasted until I installed the Powerup
emulator: now every problem has disappeared.
> The way I see It (maybe Im wrong), Warpup
> revision 15 only effects Powerup operation once you start a
> warpup program, where at it terminates the PPC.lib etc.
> Warp up is only a collection of libaries, and as such
> doesn't require any patches inserted at startup, and thus
> should not afect powerup operation adversly, until used.
Call me paranoid, but I think it's the contrary, that Powerup checks
if Warpup is installed and sometimes misbehaves on bootup.
> Im not using warp up in emelation mode, but could you
> explain the correct way to set it up anyway. Would I be
> better off reverting to a older version of the flash
> update?
I think that reverting to an older flash update could be a tricky
business, so I'd not advise you to do it.
Anyway here's how to install the emulator:
- backup your ppc.library and copy to Libs: the one included in the
PUP Emulator drawer
- copy the BPPCFix program (found in warpup4/tools/BPPCFix/) to C:
- set the env variable NoPatch to 1 and copy it to Envarc:
- open your Startup-Sequence and insert at the beginning (I've
inserted it just before SetPatch) the following line:
C:BPPCFix install reboot >NIL:
This way every time the bootup process comes to a problem in its early
stages, it automagically reboots. That's it: all the bootup problems
are solved (hopefully!).
> Heres another thought, could the scsi interface be the
> problem. I dont actually have any SCSI devices attached,
> and dont use it at prersent. Is it possible that this is
> interfering with the PPC etc. Is there anyway I can turn it
> off to test, without turning of the board or ide harddisk.
I don't think, as I have no SCSI devices attached either.
> Right thats it. Again I am very greatful for any help.
Well, I hope this time it'll be more useful ;-)
Regards,
Paolo
--
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"It's hard to soar like an eagle when you live with turkeys."
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lazybone@diff.org
Message 15579
From: "Kevin Fairhurst"
Subject: [afb] Re: Re:CD-Writer
Date: 16 Jun 99 22:18:05 +0200
On 16 Jun 99 21:32:47 +0000, Bill (bill@duxbury=2Eu-net=2Ecom) wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>=20
> Thanks to Neil (Bothwick) for his info via mail list and private=2E
>=20
> I am interested in a 4x4x16 Yamaha CD-Writer, at =A3297 bare scsci=2E
Errr, check out www=2Escan=2Eco=2Euk - the last I heard, they were =A3147 f=
or the
bare scsi drive=2E I paid =A3180 a month ago from them (inc vat)=2E C'est l=
a vie!
Kev
PS MakeCD works fine with it so I'm off to register!
--=20
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 14701124
Message 15580
From: "Richard Lane"
Subject: [afb] Re: TLA's (was Backups & Miami)
Date: 16 Jun 99 21:51:04 +0100
Hi Captain Kumquat,
In reference to "[afb] Re: TLA's (was Backups & Miami)",
> Hi guys
>
> >ABackup was the one I used. I now use MakeCD for fortnightly backups
> >and LhA for the daily ones, since you can set LhA to only archive
> >changed files, but that only works if you have somewhere safe to store
> >the LhAs, like a second hard drive.
>
>
> Why LhA not LHA?
To emphasize the "A", the program has always been called this. The files
it produces are called *.lha
> What does LhA stand for?
Check out the letters I've highlighted in bold. Older Lharc compressed
files have the file extension *.Lzh
1.4 Terminology
*A*RCHIVE - An archive is a file containing one or more files in a
compressed or non-compressed state and related information like
file names, last modification date/time, filenotes etc.
COMPRESSION - The process of encoding redundant information into
data requiring less storage space. There are a multitude of ways
you can do this in. LhA uses a modified version of *L*empel-*Z*iv
compression with block-adaptive *H*uffman coding and a dictionary
size of 4096 or 8192 characters.
> While I'm on it, how about LZX?
>
Similar explantion for this, which I'm sure you can work out for your
self now.
I hearby claim my prize for smart arse of the week :)
Shoot, I keep meaning to unsubscribe but never get round to it.... Oh well,
maybe I'll stay after all as I'm on holday atm. so I need somthing to
keep me occupied :)
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Message 15581
From: P Gordon aka Mr Tickle
Subject: [afb] Re: My bad England
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:43:26 -0700 (PDT)
> >Nope. Thats a positive ion
>
> Or 'cation' as we in the know call them. And that's
> "cat ion" not "cayshun".
Either way its not a possion...
Message 15582
From: alex.paton@tesco.net
Subject: [afb] Re: Mission : Impossible ? (To be undertake
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 21:43:29 -0000
Hi Ben,
> Hi Gerald,
>
> >> Your mission...
>
> It's too early yet. What would they say? "Oh yeah, the Amiga will be able to
> do everything. Sorry we've no proof of that, you'll just have to trust us"?
> >
You are correct when you say we can prove nothing yet but we must let
the computing world out there that the Amiga still exists and is
useful. I work in I.T. and when I mention the Amiga (which is just
about everyday) they have the impression that it died a long time ago.
Indeed one of the system analysts who tests software before it is
introduced into our network compared the Amiga to a Commodore 64 with
fuuny buttons. Ofcourse he has come to regret that statement when told
of my BVision/ dual processor system.
All the best
Alex
Message 15583
From: P Gordon aka Mr Tickle
Subject: [afb] Re: Amiga font
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:45:46 -0700 (PDT)
> logo (C='s) was just
> >Garamond Halbfett Kursiv.
Times bold italic does the job though
Message 15584
From: Andrew Crowe
Subject: [afb] Re: WinUAE
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 20:20:04 +0000
Hi Everybody,
> Thanks for the help, I've a new question now - how can I get it to use my
> modem? It's on COM3 and I've tried setting that as my serial port but that
> doesn't work.
Just put your PC online, as the latest version of WinUAE lets you access
the internet through the PC's PPP. (I think)
See ya.
--
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Message 15585
From: Gerald Mellor
Subject: [afb] Re: Sn-appicons
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 21:37:53 +0100
Hi Ben,
> In YAM you can set where the appicon appears - you don't need any other
> tool to do so.
You can set the position of the Mailbox status appicon, I don't think you
can do the same for the other one...
Bauglir
Message 15586
From: Gerald Mellor
Subject: [afb] Re: BSD
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 22:51:01 +0100
Hi Danny,
> Well I gathered that much. IFAIKT it has something to do with the numerous
> X server config files. None of them have an example entry for AGA users.
IFAIKT? I'm usually pretty good with acronyms (or whatever, don't correct
me) but this one has me stumped :)
Bauglir
Message 15587
From: "Neil Bullock"
Subject: [afb] Re: Upgrading
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 07:53:04 +0100
---- Original Message -----
From: Even Sandvik Underlid
To: Neil Bullock
Sent: 16 June 1999 12:08
Subject: [afb] Re: Upgrading
> Neil Bullock wrote:
>
> >>>Upon travelling to the bank yesterday, they gave me that interest stuff
> >>>that they tend to give you. My dad lets me spend the interest, so I want
> >>>to know what you think I should get for my Amiga. It's 114 btw.
> >>Didn't we already do this for someone else? :) Directory Opus 5 Magellan
> >>II, Kickstart 3.1 and Workbench 3.5 (when available).
> >Right... got DOpus Mag II, My dad is getting me KS3.1 and OS3.5 when they
> >come out so I don't have to pay for them... so I need other suggestions :)
>
> Got an A1200? If you have got a BlizzardPPC, save up for a BVision. If you
> have got a tower without a BlizzardPPC, save up for a BlizzardPPC. If you
> have got an untowered A1200, get a PowerTower.
>
> Also, there's the possibility of preordering Fusion PPC if you've already
> got a PPC board... should enable you to run thousands of pieces of PowerMac
> software at full speed and functionality (probably including Quake 3, which
> should be out for the Mac quite soon :).
>
I've now decided I've got 5 possibilites (more are welcome)
1. Register a load of shareware
2. Buy a (bare) Power-Tower (I assume this is only the case, and I'd need
a keyboard, etc?)
3. Pay my dad for the massive phone bill he's going to receive in July :)
4. Get PPC Stuff
5. Not spend it, and get more interest next time round (good idea, but it
wouldn't be much extra, I don't think)
Another thing... I could invent a new form of skin which protects
completely from sunburn. I bet me and my Girlfriend are the only two
people who could possibly get sunburnt on a day like today (in this
country anyway) :( Our own fault though. Sitting outside in the sun...
Neil
Message 15588
From: "Neil Bullock"
Subject: [afb] Re: Upgrading
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 07:57:47 +0100
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Thompson
To:
Sent: 16 June 1999 15:22
Subject: [afb] Re: Upgrading
> What model of Amiga do you have?
A1200. (if you want the current spec, it's
PC power supply, power typhoon mk1, 18mb ram,
eyetech 4x cd-plus, 810MB hard drive, offical
amiga mouse :)
Neil
Message 15589
From: "Neil Bullock"
Subject: [afb] Re: Upgrading
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:33:19 +0100
----- Original Message -----
From: Phil Stephens
To:
Sent: 16 June 1999 20:08
Subject: [afb] Re: Upgrading
>
> Well it would really depend on what you use your miggy for wouldn't
> it, I mean it's no good suggesting get a printer, when your never
> gonna use it ?
>
> So question
>
> What do you use your's for ?
>
Programming, Games, Fiddling around with Workbench and buggering it up
causing it not to boot, thus needing me to faff about in the early
startup menu, disabling partitions, booting with no startup and eventually
figuring that it's something I put in WBStartup that caused all the
problems... that sort of thing :)
Seriously, Programming, Games, Fiddling with apps of all kinds, writing
diskmags, editing webpages, Programming, Music Making (occasionally),
Sound Sampling, Programming, etc...
Neil
Message 15590
From: "Neil Bullock"
Subject: [afb] Re: New Machine
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:35:46 +0100
----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: 16 June 1999 19:40
Subject: [afb] New Machine
> Hi
>
> About three or four years ago I let my subscription to AF fade away and
after
> a few months my Amiga Ended up in a box in the attic. The Other week I
> was walking through WHSmiths and I noticed an issue of Amiga Format on
> the shelf, so I picked it up and ended up buying it. Shortly after that I
> went up into the attic and blew the dust of my Amiga and fired it up again.
>
> Since then I've been messing aroud with it and since it's an A600 with a
> massive 20Mb harddisk I think it's about time I got a new one! But I don't
> know whether to go for a classic system, somthing like a A1200 Tower or wait
> for the NG machines?
>
First Computer Centre had an A1200 with 8MB, 030 Accelerator and Hard Disk
for 100 (i think) when I went in a few weeks ago. Although they are jumping
ship soon, so it might have already gone. See the ad in AF for their number.
Neil
Message 15591
From: Andy Kinsella
Subject: [afb] Re: PPaint 7.1b (was Thanks for the info)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 22:57:56 +0100
Greetings Ben
On 16-Jun-99, you wrote:
> Hi Vincenzo,
>
>> BTW, I bought it after I tried the Cover Disc. You see, is not a bad
>> idea to put on the cover disc complete version of old piece of
>> software. I know that Ben would not agree with it, but that is just my
>> opinion. And no, I am not starting a new thread ;)
>
> Older software, maybe, although putting a full version of 7.0 on our CD
> when the later version 7.1 wasn't much improved went against my grain. I
> dare say there are a lot of people still on this list that *didn't*
> upgrade.
Shame on them! :) Ppaint 7.1 is cheap at twice the price.
I just patched my version. The version info hasn't changed. I guess they
forgot to change it 8)
Any clues as to where the cpu-specific versions are? A mooch around
biz/cloan yields naught.
>
> All the best,
Regards
Andy
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Message 15592
From: Andy Kinsella
Subject: [afb] Re: Fonts on the Brain (AKA Fontmania)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 22:49:11 +0100
Greetings ben@subway.demon.co.uk
On 16-Jun-99, you wrote:
>> What version of APDF are you using, and what processor do you have? If
>> you're using the 060 version, try the non-FPU version, as the 060
>> version falls over with Line 1111 emulator errors on my 030/50.
>
> Might that possibly be because it was compiled for an 060, and those of
> you with lesser machines should use the non-FPU version?
It's supposed to support 030+fpu/040/060 according to the short.
>
> Ben
Regards
Andy
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us as equals.
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Message 15593
From: Andy Kinsella
Subject: [afb] Re: Fonts (again)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 22:45:31 +0100
Greetings 4-0
On 16-Jun-99, you wrote:
> Hiya ppl
>
> I'm tring to use Postscript fonts in the spline editor of Imagine v4,
> but no fonts come up on the font list. I think it's because I dont know
> how to install Postscript fonts. I've tried the intellifont proggy, but
> that dont work. Can anyone help?
> Cheers
Postscript fonts can be anywhere. I have an assign PSFONTS: to sys:psfonts
Go to imagine prefs and you should see this line a few down from the top
PSDR " " # Postscript font directory
Just insert the path to your Postscript fonts directory between, so that
it reads something like:
PSDR"psfonts:" # Postscript font directory
Simple as that.
> 4-0
>
Regards
Andy
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Message 15594
From: "Neil Bothwick"
Subject: [afb] Re: Download Speeds
Date: 16 Jun 1999 22:44:6 +0100
Danny Shepherd said,
> On 16-Jun-99, ben@subway.demon.co.uk wrote:
>> I get between 3 and 6 here at home downloading archives. text files can be
>> anywhere up to 11. email, using YAM is usually at between 4-5. At work I
>> regularly get 85-600. :) At home I have a Pace Solo.
> I get about the same for archives and text but YAM never seems to get above
> 2.4/2.5 unless it is a very big file (over 100k) :(
That's because mail usually consists of a lot of small files. The time
spent in communication with the server between each mail is as long as
the transfer of the mail itself. That's why the modem receive light
isn't on constantly when downloading mail. News is better because some
newsreaders can open multiple connections to the server, when one
stream pauses the others take up the available bandwidth.
Neil
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Why is the word abbreviation so long?
Message 15595
From: "Neil Bothwick"
Subject: [afb] Re: Xpdf
Date: 16 Jun 1999 22:46:19 +0100
Gerald Mellor said,
> I managed to get APDF working, but only the non-fpu version. Seems the 060
> version doesn't like my 50MHz 68882.
If you have a 68882 you must be running on a 68030, so why would you
expect the 060 version to work?
I'd expect the PPC version to fail too :)
Neil
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Message 15596
From: "Neil Bothwick"
Subject: [afb] Re: Freeserve dying AGAIN?
Date: 16 Jun 1999 22:48:7 +0100
Danny Shepherd said,
>> In the independent ISP survey in Internet.works, Freeserve didn't
>> even make the Top 50. X-Stream managed 24th so the competitionwasn't
>> exactly hot in the lower half of the table.
> Where did U-Net/Wirenet come?
Fourth. and not a top mark in any of the individual categories, the
high overall score was achieved through consistency across the range
of tests.
Neil
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Message 15597
From: "Neil Bothwick"
Subject: [afb] Re: APDF
Date: 16 Jun 1999 22:51:22 +0100
Danny Shepherd said,
> I know this has been said but where can I get this APDF?
Aminet of course :)
ftp://ftp.aminet.de/pub/aminet/gfx/show/Apdf060.lha
ftp://ftp.aminet.de/pub/aminet/gfx/show/Apdfppc.lha
ftp://ftp.aminet.de/pub/aminet/gfx/show/Apdfsrc.lha
ftp://ftp.aminet.de/pub/aminet/gfx/show/Apdf_nofpu.lha
Neil
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Message 15598
From: "Neil Bothwick"
Subject: [afb] Re:CD-Writer
Date: 16 Jun 1999 22:57:10 +0100
Bill said,
> I am interested in a 4x4x16 Yamaha CD-Writer, at 297 bare scsci.
> There seems to be 2 software packages available, Burnit and MakeCd.
There's also MasterISO, from AsimWare.
I favour MakeCD, I used it for the CUCDs. I don't know what AF use
but Nick Veitch used to be on the MakeCD mailing list.
MasterISO also has a good reputation, but is more expensive. MakeCD
also has the advantage that the demo version is functional, you can
burn CDs with it.
> My system is as follows:
You mentioned earlier that you have a Squirrel, this is very CPU
intensive, so you'll only be able to burn via image files. If there's
a SCSI interface for your 030 card it will make a big difference.
> Has anyone installed said CD-Writer on their system and/or can anyone advise
> me whatsoever?
I've been using a Yamaha writer for the past eighteen months with no
problems, although it's not the 4416 (it's a CDR400t).
Neil
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Message 15599
From: "Neil Bothwick"
Subject: [afb] Re: Freeserve dying AGAIN?
Date: 16 Jun 1999 23:32:5 +0100
Peter Price said,
> Neil Bothwick scribbled with a virtual Biro about [afb] Re: Freeserve dying
> AGAIN? :
>> In the independent ISP survey in Internet.works, Freeserve didn't
>> even make the Top 50. X-Stream managed 24th so the competitionwasn't
>> exactly hot in the lower half of the table.
> Was this the survey that rated the Mirror's ic24 as best?
There were no free ISPs near the top. Well, there was one but they
weren't free when the survey was done.
Neil
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Message 15600
From: "Bill"
Subject: [afb] Fake root
Date: 16 Jun 99 23:33:07 +0000
Hi Everyone,
Does anyone know why I keep receiving the following?
"Unable to read message:
This is not really a message, just a fake root created."
There is no sender but there is subject text.
Cheers
Bill
Message 15601
From: Ferenczy
Subject: [afb] Re: UKOnlines bin directory
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 23:44:50 +0100
Hi ultrasbm@hotmail.com
On 16-Jun-99, you wrote:
>> No, UKOnline don't allow you to use CGI on your own site. But they
>> couldn't care less if you use CGI from another site. IIRC, UKOnline
>> have a kind of 'hosting' facility, you'll have to check the UKOnline
>> tech support pages to see.
> Why do UKOnline not allow you to use nor store CGI on your website? What is
> so bad about them? Is it because they can do something to the setting on the
> server, or to do with hacking or what?
Nothing's "so bad about them". CGI as far as I know uses the server's
processing power (I think), which means you're effectively using their
processing power to do various tasks.
If everyone did this then the server would be compromised. Most places don't
like CGI at al, so UKOnline seem to have a more forgiving nature than many
others. Sounds okay to me... :-)
Regards,
Frost.
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Message 15602
From: James Lowe
Subject: [afb] Re: how to be rich
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 00:11:08 +0100
We are the Crowe. how to be rich is futile. Prepare to be assimilated.
> why not use an anon. remailer? Or your superfast
And what if the address is faked, or even worse, an innocent Netizen?
> school/college/university's hundred-million-megs per second
> connection ;)
Erm... no, because your mail will have your address on it, so you'll
still get more Spam to your Uni account :)
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Message 15603
From: Vincenzo Morra
Subject: [afb] Re: Upgrading
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 23:41:19 +0100
Hello Neil
On 16-Giu-99, Neil Bullock wrote:
> Right... got DOpus Mag II, My dad is getting me KS3.1 and OS3.5 when they
> come out so I don't have to pay for them... so I need other suggestions :)
Would you like to share your dad with me?
;)
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Message 15604
From: Vincenzo Morra
Subject: [afb] Re: Upgrading
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 23:43:33 +0100
Hello Neil
On 16-Giu-99, Neil Bullock wrote:
> Hi Ben,
>>
>>> Yep, try again :)
>>
>> In that case, spend the money on wine, women and song (should get you a
>> pint, a CD single and...)
>>
>
> Three problems: 1) I'm not old enough to buy alcohol :)
Since when you have to be old enough to buy alchool ;) ??
> 2) Local Woolworths is crap and sells nothing worth buying
Women sold in Woolworths?!?! Since when?
> 3) That's nothing to do with my computer :)
Well, you can play them in your CD Player
Ciao
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Message 15605
From: "Paul Cundle"
Subject: [afb] Re: Rules and regs
Date: 15 Jun 99 23:32:44 +0000
On Tue Jun 15 at 23:31:50, James Lowe was heard muttering:
Hello,
I'm a bit bored so I thought I'd pass comment on your rules. Please
don't take offence, but I do think some are way OTT or not clear
enough. Feel free to disagree with me.
> Replying to an ADMIN post without changing the Subject 2 points
Bit harsh, no? Sometimes threads are broken (especially when replied
to from PCs) so changing the subject means you won't be able to follow
it properly.
> Replying to a dead thread after the two days are up 4 points
Definitely not. What if someone goes away for the weekend or has a
problem with their ISP? Does that mean they are not entitled to give
their opinion?
> Flaming another user on this list publicly 6 points
I suppose it depends on how you define flaming, but surely the point
of a list is both to sort problems but also to give opinions - this is
like saying no arguments are allowed (I think).
> Arguing with the moderator or co-moderator 6 points
About what? Is no-one allowed to disagree with your opinion on a
topic? If you mean no-one should argue with you if you give them
points then you should say that.
> Spamming this list 6 points
Absolutely. But would you say my mail warning people about the
potential risks of people pinching your phone line was spam? It
certainly wasn't related to this list at all, but people should still
have the right to know (even if it unwittingly turns out to be a
hoax).
Paul C.
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Message 15606
From: "Paul Cundle"
Subject: [afb] Re: how to be rich
Date: 16 Jun 99 23:54:12 +0000
On Wed Jun 16 at 23:52:51, Neil Bothwick was heard muttering:
> [why not send back all that cr*p]
> Because the originator's address may be forged.
Irony here - I keep getting mails about how to get cheap printer
periph's so I replied to the seemingly-genuine address saying
slightly less politely "go away". Well it wasn't a forged address but
I did get a bounce saying something like "mail server rejecting mails
to avoid unsolicited mail" !!! Taking the piss or what.
Paul C.
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Message 15607
From: Ken Walsh
Subject: [afb] Re: (OT) Shares
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:55:10 +0100
Hello Ben
> Hi Ken,
> =
>> goody as i'm thinking of buying some shares in them when they come up
>> for sale ;-)
> =
> If you're interested in buying shares Future gets floated on Friday
> (seriously).
You never know I'll look into it to be honest I want a quick buck and
phone and 'net companies seem to be ridding high. I was going to buy Pace=
Micro Tec' when they was 24p a share and lost loads now just under =A32 a=
share. I would have bought =A35,000 at the old price but never went with =
my
hunch lost a packet.
I'm still looking for a company which might sparkle
Cheers all the best
Ken Walsh
Sent by the Amiga Computer System The Amiga A1200 =
Message 15608
From: bbeacon@yahoo.com
Subject: [afb] Fastteam Penny Gasoline Club
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 23:31:44 -0000
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Take a careful LOOK at this website www.fastteam.net/10323 Please check out the companies back ground we encourage you to do so for-your sake.
This company pays Daily, Weekly, Monthly. There is no waiting around for your check to come, they come on time every-time. All the company ask is to get two people involved and they get two. If you don`t know two people PLEASE don`t get in. Now how many companies say that?
If you know six people and get them submited on a Tuesday (lets say for instants) the company WILL cut you a check on Wednesday. This is NO JOKE!!! Call us for more information at: 1-800-460-0852 or LOOK into the website http://www.fastteam.net/10323 for more details.
If you want instant results (like other companies promise) check this out for yourself. You will be glad you did.
Message 15609
From: Dominique Harelle
Subject: [afb] Re: PPaint 7.1b (was Thanks for the info)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:44:12 +1000
From : Andy Kinsella
Date : 17-Jun-99
Subject: [afb] Re: PPaint 7.1b (was Thanks for the info)
Hello Andy,
> Shame on them! :) Ppaint 7.1 is cheap at twice the price.
> I just patched my version. The version info hasn't changed. I guess they
> forgot to change it 8)
> Any clues as to where the cpu-specific versions are? A mooch around
> biz/cloan yields naught.
I ask Cloanto and they said they should be ready very soon.
Regards
Dom...
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Message 15610
From: Gerald Mellor
Subject: [afb] Re: Xpdf
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 01:00:50 +0100
Hi Neil,
>> I managed to get APDF working, but only the non-fpu version. Seems the
>> 060 version doesn't like my 50MHz 68882.
>
> If you have a 68882 you must be running on a 68030, so why would you
> expect the 060 version to work?
Because on Aminet there are two 68k versions. One, Apdf060.lha is described
as being for 020/030/060+fpu. This is the version I'm referring to as the
060 version. There is also Apdf_nofpu.lha, which is for 020+, no fpu. I
assumed the 060 version would work on my computer because I have an 030
with FPU.
In fact, here is what it says in the readme:
You need the archive adapted to your processor:
680x0 without FPU -> Apdf_nofpu.lha
68020/68030/68060 with FPU -> Apdf060.lha
Hope that clears things up :)
Bauglir
Message 15611
From: "Ian Urie"
Subject: [afb] Re: Cable&Wireless
Date: 17 Jun 99 01:22:19 -0500
> It is possible to use C&W without having a new phone line put in :-))
> All I have to do is dial 132 before any call I make, and it gets routed thro
> Have a look at their web site for more details http://www.cwcom.net/
> FreeCall 0800 092 3001 or e-mail on sales@cwcom.net
And use a NATIONAL dial-in number on Saturdays .....
50p for unlimited duration (all Saturday)
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and a tree fell on top of him, would anybody care?
Message 15612
From: "Richard Lane"
Subject: [afb] Re: Fastteam Penny Gasoline Club
Date: 17 Jun 99 02:24:57 +0100
Hi ,
In reference to "[afb] Fastteam Penny Gasoline Club",
[snip]
Oh dear
Spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam.....
> Spamming this list 6 points
Twice more and you'll be banned for three months buddy.
ROTFLMAO
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Message 15613
From: neil.ives@btinternet.com
Subject: [afb] Re: PC vs Amiga
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 06:06:58 -0000
> Is anyone else really pissed of with the "computers are like tools" or "OS's are
> like busses" analogies?
Well, whats your opinion?
Have you missed my point about crap user interfaces?
NEIL IVES
Message 15614
From: "Moat_Monster"
Subject: [afb] Re: New Machine
Date: 17 Jun 99 07:51:34 -0500
>> First Computer Centre had an A1200 with 8MB, 030 Accelerator and Hard Disk
> for 100 (i think) when I went in a few weeks ago.
An Amiga that low specced would be a waste of time as you would have
to fork out a fortune on top of that, to get it anywhere near a good
enough standard to be future proof.
Even my 1200 with blizzard 060 and 16 meg is boardering obsolete as
it just cannot hack many of the new games that will be coming out (it
may run them, slowly, but nothing to get any real use out of) You
need need a PPC160 32mb fastram and Bvision graphics card to be at a
descent spec for any future classic amiga production. Then there will
be the upgrade to 3.1 chips so you can run OS3.5, which many new
classic software tittles may require. All this is going to add up to
a lot of cash for something that may well lose the majority of it's
already thin support.
I can see plenty of companies wanting to support classics with
hardware, but nowhere near enough companies producing quality software
packages to run on your very expensive H/W.
I still hold to that if money is no problem, then fine go ahead a
purchase a boxer or some higher spec Amiga. If money is tight then
wait and see what happens with the AmigaNG, it is only a few months
away before Amiga start informing us what exactly has been going on
behind closed doors. I think after WOA we will all be in a much
better position to decide how best to procced with our upgrades.
Peace
Zanthras
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Message 15615
From: "Ben Vost"
Subject: [afb] Re: (OT) Shares
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:02:21 +0100
Hi Ken,
> You never know I'll look into it to be honest I want a quick buck and
> phone and 'net companies seem to be ridding high. I was going to buy Pa=
ce
> Micro Tec' when they was 24p a share and lost loads now just under =A32=
a
> share. I would have bought =A35,000 at the old price but never went wit=
h my
> hunch lost a packet.
> I'm still looking for a company which might sparkle
Well, I've been with Fewtch for just a smidge over three years and their
growth has been phenomenal, all the while they have been a splendid compa=
ny
to work for. I think that most of the people exercising their options won=
't
be in it for a quick buck since they know that the company will only
improve, so this won't be a stock for buying and dumping immediately - I
think if you buy it you'll see it accrue and accrue...
All the best,
-- =
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Editor, Amiga Format F: (+44) 01225 732275
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Message 15616
From: "Andrew McCombe"
Subject: [afb] Re: APDF
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 08:41:11 +0100
>>> Has anyone got the font mapping to work? >
I've got the same kind of problem, except that I can change the Fonts ok,
some of them save, others don't, but the pdf file is displayed as a load of
unreadable characters. I've only tried one PDF file, and will make my own
today using adobe Pagemaker.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Message 15617
From: "Ben Vost"
Subject: [afb] Re: Freeserve dying AGAIN?
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:05:10 +0100
Hi Peter,
> Oh, and does anyone else think that the whole free ISP business has got
> WAYYYYY out of hand?
There are over 80 free ISPs now according to a report in The Week from some
newspaper or other.
All the best,
--
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Editor, Amiga Format F: (+44) 01225 732275
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
try this: http://www.music365.co.uk
Message 15618
From: "Ben Vost"
Subject: [afb] Re: AI
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:06:52 +0100
Hi Ferenczy,
> Perhaps the next version of Aibo could be already on the drawing board?
> Either that or I should stay off the chees before going to bed.
Have you seen the infographic about aibo on "The Onion"? It's very good. Try
this: http://www.theonion.com
All the best,
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
If at first you don't succeed,
try the switch marked "Power"
Message 15619
From: "Ben Vost"
Subject: [afb] Re: MCP settings (was Thought for an articl
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:10:21 +0100
Hi Kevin,
> I use FastIPrefs for that - again, I think it is something that you can't
> do from within MCP itself :(
Actually you can, although it's hideously set up - use the screenmanager and
set it to lock pens 4-7 to the right colours.
> Anyway I don't think this is possible in MCP as it stands. The nearest it
> gets is the "zoom window" hotkey which acts as though you clicked on the
> "shrink window" gadget, which in itself usually puts windows into the
> middle of the screen on my system, so why not use that? ;-)
Because I just want to move them. MCX also has a "position under parent"
function which is how all the windows on our CD are lined up one under the
other. Don't suppose MCP has that either (sniff).
All the best,
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Editor, Amiga Format F: (+44) 01225 732275
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Calm down. It's only ones and zeros.
Message 15620
From: "Ben Vost"
Subject: [afb] Re: MCP settings (was Thought for an articl
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:13:36 +0100
Hi Neil,
> I had a look in TFM for audio, filter etc and got no joy. SearchGuide
> is cool, but even that has limitations :(
I went one step further and just loaded the guide in Turbotext. Rich told me
it could also be used to mount env, HappyEnv-style, but the manual gives
you absolutely no advice on that, and I couldn't find the function in the
prefs program. Fortunately, Rich told me it did it automatically.
> I use PWKeys for that, since it also allows for positioning at top,
> left, top-left etc. I've had in in startup for more than ten years,
> mapped to Left-Amiga plus the various numpad keys.
Shit. The reason I'm trying out MCP is to use less commodities. I've already
had to put TBClock back in the WBStartup+/Enabled drawer because MCP's
clock is crap.
All the best,
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Got a request to make for our CD? Send
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Message 15621
From: "Ben Vost"
Subject: [afb] Re: BSD
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:21:06 +0100
Hi Danny,
> I may ask at AmigaSOC as I remember seeing a few tutorials on NetBSD in AF
> and on their site.
Not overly surprising since Chris Livermore from AmigaSoc gathered all the
files together to go on the CD, and also wrote the whole tutorial. If you
want a 68k unix, you could always go for Red Hat Linux 68k from Weird
Science. It comes with telephone support for your twenty quid (which you
may already have spent downloading, sending emails and so on).
All the best,
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Editor, Amiga Format F: (+44) 01225 732275
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Lucky for you this e-mail is typed,
you'd never be able to read my writing.
Message 15622
From: "Sealey, M."
Subject: [afb] Re: Sn-appicons
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:24:39 +0100
Fecking Outlook. damn thing never quotes properly..
Aaaanyway, you don't need AppChange to change MUI appicons,
do you? And in YAM, the Appicon is that mailbox thingummy
unless you iconify and then it uses def_MUI, right?
IIRC if you put a DEF_YAM.info in your MUI:Icons directory
it should work for you.
And as for the snapshotting with MCP's appchange, the icon
takes it's position from it's position relative to the top
left hand corner of the "SYS:Prefs/Env-Archive/Sys" window.
Open it up, size the window to desktop size, and snapshot
it there. It should appear there on your desktop from then
on..
--
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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester
-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Mellor [mailto:bauglir@utumno.freeserve.co.uk]
Sent: 16 June 1999 19:22
To: AFB
Subject: [afb] Sn-appicons
I can't remember if this has been asked before, but is there any way to
snapshot a MUI appicon? I replaced my YAM appicon today (using MCP's
AppChange feature) but now when I iconify my YAM window the icon appears in
the middle of my WB screen instead of down the left-hand side where it
usually is... Any help would be appreciated :)
Bauglir
Message 15623
From: "Ben Vost"
Subject: [afb] Re: Sn-appicons
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:23:53 +0100
Hi Gerald,
> You can set the position of the Mailbox status appicon, I don't think you
> can do the same for the other one...
Why do you want the other one? You can double click on the mailbox icon and
YAM appears, you can use your hotkey and YAM appears, and so on. Just go to
the MUI settings for the program. Go to system and turn off appicon.
All the best,
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Save up to 44% when you subscribe to AF!
Ring: 01458 271102 right now to save...
Message 15624
From: "Ben Vost"
Subject: [afb] Re: APDF
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:24:57 +0100
Hi Danny,
> I know this has been said but where can I get this APDF?
Aminet.
All the best,
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Editor, Amiga Format F: (+44) 01225 732275
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
a m=F6bius tagline. this is a m=F6bius tag
line. this is a m=F6bius tagline. this is
Message 15625
From: "Ben Vost"
Subject: [afb] Re: Amiga font
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:26:56 +0100
Hi P,
>> logo (C='s) was just
>>> Garamond Halbfett Kursiv.
> Times bold italic does the job though
Not if you want to duplicate the logo it doesn't. Garamond isn't exactly
difficult to come by.
All the best,
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Click...Click... Damn! Out of taglines!
Message 15626
From: "Ben Vost"
Subject: [afb] Re: Re:CD-Writer
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:28:54 +0100
Hi Neil,
> I favour MakeCD, I used it for the CUCDs. I don't know what AF use
> but Nick Veitch used to be on the MakeCD mailing list.
We use MakeCD and MasterISO, along with BuildCD (or is it ISOCD) from
Commodore. Mainly it's MasterISO though.
All the best,
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Editor, Amiga Format F: (+44) 01225 732275
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
We want *your* reviews of your favourite
hardware and software. Get 'em in!
Message 15627
From: "Ben Vost"
Subject: [afb] Re: Fake root
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:33:12 +0100
Hi Bill,
> Hi Everyone,
> Does anyone know why I keep receiving the following?
> "Unable to read message:
> This is not really a message, just a fake root created."
> There is no sender but there is subject text.
It's a MicroDot thang...
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Message 15628
From: "Ben Vost"
Subject: [afb] Re: Fastteam Penny Gasoline Club
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:36:25 +0100
Hi Richard,
> In reference to "[afb] Fastteam Penny Gasoline Club",
> Spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam.....
>> Spamming this list 6 points
> Twice more and you'll be banned for three months buddy.
I tend to leave spammers on the list actually, it's just that I disallow
them from posting. This means that they end up getting all 200 or so
messages posted to the list each day, but can't say anything else. Even if
they don't unsubscribe from the list and just leave their accounts to fill
up, it's not our fault since they subscribed in the first place, and
perhaps Yahoo will kick this jerk off their service.
All the best,
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Message 15629
From: "Sealey, M."
Subject: [afb] Re: Amiga font
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:48:17 +0100
> > > logo (C='s) was just Garamond Halbfett Kursiv.
> >
> > Times bold italic does the job though
>
> Not if you want to duplicate the logo it doesn't. Garamond isn't exactly
> difficult to come by.
Really? Where? I know it's built into most LaserJet printers, but I
haven't seen "Garamond Kursiv Halbfett" outside of a printer fonts disk..
Also, do you know where the hell I can get that Bodoni font from?
--
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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester
Message 15630
From: "Ben Vost"
Subject: [afb] Re: Amiga font
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:10:41 +0100
Hi M.,
> Really? Where? I know it's built into most LaserJet printers, but I
> haven't seen "Garamond Kursiv Halbfett" outside of a printer fonts disk..
Kursiv means italic and halbfett means bold. If you have any package that
outputs to postscript, like a DTP package like PageStream for instance, it
will almost certainly come with at least the main font of the family.
> Also, do you know where the hell I can get that Bodoni font from?
You can buy it from Adobe, but I presume you mean a free version? EMC's CDs
(I can't remember which one of Phase 1, 2 or 3) have fonts based on Bodoni.
All the best,
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Message 15631
From: "Ben Vost"
Subject: [afb] Just missed the news
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:13:09 +0100
Hi all,
I got a letter in this morning from a guy that runs an engraving business=
,
and he sent me in a 5=BC" drive bay plate with the current Amiga logo
engraved into it. It looks great and it only costs =A33.50 + P&P to do it=
=2E
Simply send him your drive bay cover and the money and he'll engrave it a=
nd
send it back, just the thing to give your PC tower some personality...
Give him a call on 01625 430660
All the best,
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Editor, Amiga Format F: (+44) 01225 732275
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Submissions Advice on the AFCD first.
Message 15632
From: "Bill"
Subject: [afb] Re: CD Writer
Date: 17 Jun 99 10:45:26 +0000
Hi Everyone,
Thanks for your info and advice to my query about a purchase=2E
To buy (from a PC source) the bare Yamaha 4x4x16 external scsi unit for =A3=
297
plus the cost of MakeCD plus a few blanks would bring the price somewhat ne=
ar
to that of Power Computing's advert for 4x4x20 atapi external unit, which
includes cables, 4-way IDE interface, IDEFIX fully registered, MakeCD and 5=
xVDR
and 1 CDRW discs=2E
Not having a towerised A1200, it would mean having a cable hanging off the
back=2E Also, I may lose the use of QuarterBack as a backup prog as my son =
had
his A1200 towerised and atapi orientated=2E QuarterBack does not now recogn=
ise
his Zip 100=2E
Cheers
Bill
Message 15633
From: "Bill"
Subject: [afb] CD Writer
Date: 17 Jun 99 10:52:38 +0000
Okay, before anyone comes back with "what is a VDR disc........?"
I pressed the wrong key, a slipped disc, as you may say.
Cheers
Bill
Message 15634
From: "Ben Vost"
Subject: [afb] Re: CD Writer
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:55:03 +0100
Hi Bill,
> To buy (from a PC source) the bare Yamaha 4x4x16 external scsi unit for=
> =A3297 plus the cost of MakeCD plus a few blanks would bring the price
We'll be running a comparison of the three main CD burning packages in th=
e
next AF (not the next one on sale, but the one on sale at the show).
All the best,
-- =
Ben Vost (x2337) T: (+44) 01225 442244
Editor, Amiga Format F: (+44) 01225 732275
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Message 15635
From: Alex Timiney
Subject: [afb] Re: Mission : Impossible... but necessary.
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:13:54 -0700
alex.paton@tesco.net wrote:
>
> Hi Ben,
>
> > Hi Gerald,
> >
> I work in I.T. and when I mention the Amiga (which is just
> about everyday) they have the impression that it died a long time ago.
> Indeed one of the system analysts who tests software before it is
> introduced into our network compared the Amiga to a Commodore 64 with
> fuuny buttons. Ofcourse he has come to regret that statement when told
> of my BVision/ dual processor system.
This sound very familiar; alot of places I go (like school, and various
chat sites) I often mention the Amiga and people often say somtehing
like;
"Well it was a good machine in its day" or "Didn't that die ages ago?"
Unfortunately I cant brag about my setup; its just a simple Tyhpoon
A1200 atm.
There really does need to be education for the computer masses about the
amiga, so that ppl know about it, rather than vaugle recolect seeing a
512k A500, otherwise we'll never be anywhere close to mainstream.
-Alex Timiney
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Message 15636
From: Peter Price
Subject: [afb] Re: Spam (Fastteam Penny Gasoline Club)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:00:40 +0000
Richard Lane scribbled with a virtual Biro about [afb] Re: Fastteam Penny=
Gasoline Club :
> Spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam.....
eGroups, it would appear, need to do something about this. We get on aver=
age
one a week here, but I haven't seen any on oneList for a while.
Best Regards
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Message 15637
From: Alex Timiney
Subject: [afb] SCSI CD-ROM
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:24:28 -0700
Hi all,
I'm wanting to get a CD drive for my birthday in july, but I'm not
going to get much money spent on me, so I need one as cheap as possible,
requiring as few extras as possible.
I have an A1200 with a Typhoon MkI accelerator -SCSI enabled but no
external adaptor. I'd like to avoid getting an external drive 'cos
they're more expensive and I might be moving into a tower (maybe
co-habiting with a PC, too). I also have a heavy duty PSU.
So basically; how feasible would using an internal drive be, and is 40
too much for an internal 4x scsi CDROM?
thanks,
-Alex Timiney
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================================================================
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Message 15638
From: "Davies, Tudor (Tudor)** CTR **"
Subject: [afb] Re: SCSI CD-ROM
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:31:32 +0100
Alex T wrote:
>So basically; how feasible would using an internal drive be, and is =
=A340
>too much for an internal 4x scsi CDROM?
I hope you mean an "internal" drive but "external" to the A1200 :)
The answer to the above is YES - I do this with an IDE drive on my
A1200 - just ensure that the metal casing is "in" something, otherwise
you might blast it by accident....
Analogic does a 4x for =A339.95 I think (looking around for AF -=20
not found, so guesses!), plus you will need a cable and a means
of powering it (from the beefy PSU - is it an Atom/Goliath?)
l8r
Tudor
Message 15639
From: "Ben Vost"
Subject: [afb] Re: SCSI CD-ROM
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:29:45 +0100
Hi Alex,
> I'm wanting to get a CD drive for my birthday in july, but I'm not
> going to get much money spent on me, so I need one as cheap as possible=
,
> requiring as few extras as possible.
> I have an A1200 with a Typhoon MkI accelerator -SCSI enabled but no
> external adaptor. I'd like to avoid getting an external drive 'cos
> they're more expensive and I might be moving into a tower (maybe
> co-habiting with a PC, too). I also have a heavy duty PSU.
> So basically; how feasible would using an internal drive be, and is =A3=
40
> too much for an internal 4x scsi CDROM?
No, I don't think so - you could almost certainly get a 36x IDE (ATAPI)
drive for that money, but I'd stick with the 4x SCSI if I were you, you
wouldn't notice much difference in speed tbh. I think your plan is
feasible, if somewhat ugly... :)
All the best,
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Message 15640
From: "Ben Vost"
Subject: [afb] Re: Spam (Fastteam Penny Gasoline Club)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:27:32 +0100
Hi Peter,
> eGroups, it would appear, need to do something about this. We get on
> average one a week here, but I haven't seen any on oneList for a while.
Part of the problem is that we have an open policy on this list. I can
change it to close the list off to anyone but members if you like, but that
also means only posting from one address and so on. We don't get spammed
enough for me to want to resort to these measures, but I can if you like.
All the best,
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Message 15641
From: Alex Timiney
Subject: [afb] Re: SCSI CD-ROM
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:38:51 -0700
Davies, Tudor (Tudor)** CTR ** wrote:
[snip]
> I hope you mean an "internal" drive but "external" to the A1200 :)
>
Of course!
> The answer to the above is YES - I do this with an IDE drive on my
> A1200 - just ensure that the metal casing is "in" something, otherwise
> you might blast it by accident....
Blast it? with what? will hiding under my A1200 do, or are we talking
about somthing more substantial like a shield (metal box) or insulator
(cardboard box)?
>
> Analogic does a 4x for 39.95 I think (looking around for AF -
> not found, so guesses!), plus you will need a cable and a means
> of powering it (from the beefy PSU - is it an Atom/Goliath?)
>
Yes, thats where I got the speed and the price from. I'm not sure what
the make is for the PSU, but I also got that allitle while ago from
Analogic.
So, will Analogic sell me a cable? And how easy will it be to power the
drive (without hacking the ends of cables, though I'm not afraid of a
bit of DIY soldering etc.)?
thanks for your help.
-AT
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Message 15642
From: Alex Timiney
Subject: [afb] Re: SCSI CD-ROM
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:42:00 -0700
Ben Vost wrote:
>
> No, I don't think so - you could almost certainly get a 36x IDE (ATAPI)
> drive for that money, but I'd stick with the 4x SCSI if I were you, you
> wouldn't notice much difference in speed tbh. I think your plan is
> feasible, if somewhat ugly... :)
>
Ugly is the name of my game (you should see my PC; it an utter mess!)
I've been told that you cant get CD drives faster than 24x, and that >24
speed drives are actually 24 speeds with BIG caches.
thanks for your help
-AT
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Message 15643
From: "Davies, Tudor (Tudor)** CTR **"
Subject: [afb] Re: SCSI CD-ROM
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:50:41 +0100
Alex T wrote:
>> The answer to the above is YES - I do this with an IDE drive on my
>> A1200 - just ensure that the metal casing is "in" something, =
otherwise
>> you might blast it by accident....
>Blast it? with what? will hiding under my A1200 do, or are we talking
>about somthing more substantial like a shield (metal box) or insulator
>(cardboard box)?
You know - holding a glass of Dr Peppers when little relative runs past
playing an imaginary game of tig - and next thing - dead CDROM
and little relative being hunted like a wild animal :)
Mine is covered in stiff paper (I know, I know - I bought it from =
someone
in this condition already....
>> Analogic does a 4x for =A339.95 I think (looking around for AF -
> >>not found, so guesses!), plus you will need a cable and a means
> >>of powering it (from the beefy PSU - is it an Atom/Goliath?)
> >Yes, thats where I got the speed and the price from. I'm not sure =
what
>the make is for the PSU, but I also got that allitle while ago from
>Analogic.
>So, will Analogic sell me a cable? And how easy will it be to power =
the
>drive (without hacking the ends of cables, though I'm not afraid of a
>bit of DIY soldering etc.)?
>thanks for your help.
You need to hook up an HDD power plug (like in the PC) to run from the
PSU - my Goliath came with it already done to power external devices.
Analogic should sell the SCSI cable (long 50-way ribbon) and may have
a HDD power extender that will work as well (could even be run from the
44-pin IDE power connector and then run out of the box!)
l8r
Tudor
Message 15644
From: "Neil Bothwick"
Subject: [afb] Re: Xpdf
Date: 17 Jun 1999 10:3:1 +0100
Gerald Mellor said,
> Hi Neil,
>> If you have a 68882 you must be running on a 68030, so why would you
>> expect the 060 version to work?
> Because on Aminet there are two 68k versions. One, Apdf060.lha is described
> as being for 020/030/060+fpu. This is the version I'm referring to as the
> 060 version. There is also Apdf_nofpu.lha, which is for 020+, no fpu. I
> assumed the 060 version would work on my computer because I have an 030
> with FPU.
> 68020/68030/68060 with FPU -> Apdf060.lha
> Hope that clears things up :)
Very clear, calling the 030FPU version 060, clear as mud.
I suppose calling the 030FPU version Apdf030FPU.lha wold be too
logical, is it French? :)
Neil
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Message 15645
From: "Neil Bothwick"
Subject: [afb] Re: Freeserve dying AGAIN?
Date: 17 Jun 1999 10:5:17 +0100
Ben Vost said,
> There are over 80 free ISPs now according to a report in The Week from some
> newspaper or other.
In reality there' probably less than ten. You can now buy a "free ISP
in a box", everything you need to start up, and get your money back
once you reach a certain number of customers.
Neil
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Message 15646
From: "Neil Bothwick"
Subject: [afb] Re: MCP settings (was Thought for an articl
Date: 17 Jun 1999 10:7:25 +0100
Ben Vost said,
> Because I just want to move them. MCX also has a "position under parent"
> function which is how all the windows on our CD are lined up one under the
> other. Don't suppose MCP has that either (sniff).
No, but you can do it with DOpus, that's how I lined up the windows
on the CUCDs, and it doesn't even need the parent open :)
Neil
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Message 15647
From: "Neil Bothwick"
Subject: [afb] Re: MCP settings (was Thought for an articl
Date: 17 Jun 1999 10:10:56 +0100
Ben Vost said,
> Hi Neil,
>> I had a look in TFM for audio, filter etc and got no joy. SearchGuide
>> is cool, but even that has limitations :(
> I went one step further and just loaded the guide in Turbotext. Rich told me
> it could also be used to mount env, HappyEnv-style, but the manual gives
> you absolutely no advice on that, and I couldn't find the function in the
> prefs program. Fortunately, Rich told me it did it automatically.
How does it do that? Does it just see the handler in L: and mount it?
I don't suppose it could be a prefs option, since MCP sotres its prefs
in ENV: :-O
>> I use PWKeys for that, since it also allows for positioning at top,
>> left, top-left etc. I've had in in startup for more than ten years,
>> mapped to Left-Amiga plus the various numpad keys.
> Shit. The reason I'm trying out MCP is to use less commodities. I've already
But there's no "do all" commodity. However, PWKeys does a lot more
than window centring, so I don't mind running that too. Maybe you
should run MCP and MCX to ue the best of both. That should eliminate
the need for almost anything else.
> had to put TBClock back in the WBStartup+/Enabled drawer because MCP's
> clock is crap.
It tells the time, what more do you want?
Neil
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Message 15648
From: "Neil Bothwick"
Subject: [afb] Re: Re:CD-Writer
Date: 17 Jun 1999 10:17:13 +0100
Ben Vost said,
> Hi Neil,
>> I favour MakeCD, I used it for the CUCDs. I don't know what AF use
>> but Nick Veitch used to be on the MakeCD mailing list.
> We use MakeCD and MasterISO, along with BuildCD (or is it ISOCD) from
> Commodore. Mainly it's MasterISO though.
Why such a mixture?
Neil
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Message 15649
From: "Ben Vost"
Subject: [afb] Re: MCP settings (was Thought for an articl
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:58:18 +0100
Hi Neil,
> No, but you can do it with DOpus, that's how I lined up the windows
> on the CUCDs, and it doesn't even need the parent open :)
Do tell. I'd also love to know how to centre a window using Opus if poss...
:)
All the best,
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Message 15650
From: "Ben Vost"
Subject: [afb] Re: MCP settings (was Thought for an articl
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:00:29 +0100
Hi Neil,
>> me it could also be used to mount env, HappyEnv-style, but the manual
>> gives you absolutely no advice on that, and I couldn't find the function
>> in the prefs program. Fortunately, Rich told me it did it automatically.
> How does it do that? Does it just see the handler in L: and mount it?
> I don't suppose it could be a prefs option, since MCP sotres its prefs
> in ENV: :-O
I guess so.
> But there's no "do all" commodity. However, PWKeys does a lot more
> than window centring, so I don't mind running that too. Maybe you
> should run MCP and MCX to ue the best of both. That should eliminate
> the need for almost anything else.
I'm thinking that's probably the case, or simply go back to just mcx and the
other commodities. I was only running CTM and that gives better-looking
cycle menus than MCP does anyway...
>> had to put TBClock back in the WBStartup+/Enabled drawer because MCP's
>> clock is crap.
> It tells the time, what more do you want?
But it's not visible half the time and you have to fiddle to set it up.
All the best,
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Message 15651
From: "Ben Vost"
Subject: [afb] Re: Re:CD-Writer
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:01:29 +0100
Hi Neil,
>> We use MakeCD and MasterISO, along with BuildCD (or is it ISOCD) from
>> Commodore. Mainly it's MasterISO though.
> Why such a mixture?
You'd have to ask Errol, but I think it has something to do with the "8 dirs
deep" limitation of ISO9660 for older CD-ROM drives.
All the best,
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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it means?
Message 15652
From: "Neil Bullock"
Subject: [afb] Re: Upgrading
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:40:03 +0100
> Since when you have to be old enough to buy alchool ;) ??
:)
> Women sold in Woolworths?!?! Since when?
That's not what I meant. I was referring to the CD Single
> Well, you can play them in your CD Player
Great :)
Neil
Message 15653
From: rsdm@eee.rgu.ac.uk
Subject: [afb] Re: WinUAE
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:42:46 -0000
Hi Alex
> Thanks for the help, I've a new question now - how can I get it to use my modem?
> It's on COM3 and I've tried setting that as my serial port but that doesn't
> work.
I've never tried accessing the modem as being connected to the WinUAE serial port, but what you can do (maybe the only way) is to connect with the modem from Windows and then run WinUAE making sure that the BSDSocket.library emulation box is ticked. Then you can run whatever and the Amiga uses it as if it were connected.
Message 15654
From: "R.S.Radford"
Subject: [afb] Re: MCP settings (was Thought for an articl
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:50:55 -0400 (EDT)
On Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:00:29 +0100 Ben Vost
wrote:
> me it could also be used to mount env, HappyEnv-style,
> but the manual
> gives you absolutely no advice on that, and I couldn't
> find the function in the prefs program. Fortunately, Rich
> told me it did it automatically.
I wasnt aware that it did that, ill test that later.
> I had to put TBClock back in the WBStartup+/Enabled
> drawer because MCP's clock is crap.
>
> It tells the time, what more do you want?
>
> But it's not visible half the time and you have to fiddle to set it up.
That the main detractor of MCP in general. It takes ages to
configure, and come to a reliable setup. However, It has a
vast array of powerful features to use, if required.
By the way can anyone tell me if their is a click to front
option in MCP, I can`t find it.
----------------------
R.S.Radford
R.S.Radford.@uwic.ac.uk
Message 15655
From: "Matt Sealey"
Subject: [afb] Re: Just missed the news
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:56:40 +0100
> Hi all,
> I got a letter in this morning from a guy that runs an engraving business,
> and he sent me in a 5" drive bay plate with the current Amiga logo
> engraved into it. It looks great and it only costs 3.50 + P&P to do it.
> Simply send him your drive bay cover and the money and he'll engrave it
and
> send it back, just the thing to give your PC tower some personality...
Wowee! I might have to have a few of those done :)
When you say current, you mean AMiGA with the red square, right?
Smart!
> Give him a call on 01625 430660
I think I will :))
Neko
Message 15656
From: "Richard Drummond"
Subject: [afb] Re: MCP settings (was Thought for an articl
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:57:38 +0100
Hello Ben
On 17-Jun-99, you wrote:
>> How does it do that? Does it just see the handler in L: and mount it?
>> I don't suppose it could be a prefs option, since MCP sotres its prefs
>> in ENV: :-O
>
> I guess so.
If you don't have ENV: assigned anywhere when you start MCP, it'll try to
mount HappyENV.
Cheers,
Richard
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Message 15657
From: "Matt Sealey"
Subject: [afb] Re: Mission : Impossible... but necessary.
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:01:46 +0100
> > I work in I.T. and when I mention the Amiga (which is just
> > about everyday) they have the impression that it died a long time ago.
Yeah, either that or "Oh, my daughter had one of those" :)
and "Real computers? I thought they just did games.."
Then I show them the Amiga website, the phase5 website (compare
the PPC cards to the latest Apple Macs :) and show them my WinUAE
setup (which has been cloned from my Amiga).
"I guess I was wrong" they say. Fools! :)
> "Well it was a good machine in its day" or "Didn't that die ages ago?"
> Unfortunately I cant brag about my setup; its just a simple Tyhpoon
> A1200 atm.
I just say "It's better than your Apple Mac" and point at their Performa
LC475 and they agree.. :)
I find it's easier to compare to a Mac because of the similarities. And
the fact that you can emulate a Mac on the Amiga.. that always gets
jaws dropping ;)
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Message 15658
From: "Matt Sealey"
Subject: [afb] Re: SCSI CD-ROM
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:04:05 +0100
> No, I don't think so - you could almost certainly get a 36x IDE (ATAPI)
> drive for that money, but I'd stick with the 4x SCSI if I were you, you
> wouldn't notice much difference in speed tbh. I think your plan is
> feasible, if somewhat ugly... :)
Remind me to take a photo of my A1200 for you all..
Wires and boards everywhere - and no casing!
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University of Leicester
Message 15659
From: "Ben Vost"
Subject: [afb] Re: Just missed the news
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:04:46 +0100
Hi Matt,
> When you say current, you mean AMiGA with the red square, right?
Yeah, only it's not red - it's just engraved into the blanking plate.
However, it shouldn't be too difficult to colour in... :)
All the best,
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Message 15660
From: "Ben Vost"
Subject: [afb] Re: MCP settings (was Thought for an articl
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:06:15 +0100
Hi R.S.Radford,
> By the way can anyone tell me if their is a click to front
> option in MCP, I can`t find it.
Yeah, you have to use the hotkeys section of MCP and assign bringing the
active window to the front to a mouse button press.
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Message 15661
From: "Matt Sealey"